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Dr Axel

2015-11-05T17:38:37Z

Origen: minor typo

{{character
|name=Dr Axel
|image=
|first= "[[Dr Axel and the Witchmen]]"
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and [[Wilson McCoy]]
|}}

'''Dr Axel''' is the doctor of the jungle, and runs [[Dr. Axel's Jungle Hospital|a jungle hospital]]. He has been doing so ever since he was asked by [[the 20th Phantom]].
== Fictional character biography ==
While still a young doctor Axel had alcohol problems, and after nearly causing the death of one of his patients he fled out in the jungle. Stumbling upon the 20th Phantom, badly wounded after a showdown, he saved the life of him, forever gaining the friendship of the Phantom.

With support from the [[The Minor Treasure Room|minor treasure room]], the Jungle Hospital was founded, and protected by the Phantom's [[The Good Mark|good mark]]. Dr Axel late helped deliver [[the 21st Phantom]], as well as the next generation - the twins [[Kit and Heloise]]

Dr Axel has also been showed to have a son [[Ben Axel]], studying medicine as well.

== Behind the scenes ==
Lee Falk mentioned both '''Bjorn''' ("[[Attack of the Witchmen]]"), and '''Thor''' ("[[The Shaman]]"), as being the first name of the doctor. [[Team Fantomen]] has his first name to be '''Thorbjorn''', and regards him as being of Scandinavian descent.

In the 1970's the the color of Dr. Axel's skin changed temporarily in the newspaper strip. Otherwise known to be Caucasian he was depicted as a black man between 1971 and 1977. [[Team Fantomen]] followed this change in their stories and continued this into the 1980's.

Dr Axel is based upon real-life doctor [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Schweitzer Albert Schweitzer].

==Notable Appearances==
===[[Daily stories|Daily]] & [[Sunday stories|Sunday]] stories===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Dr Axel and the Witchmen]]" || [[Lee Falk|Falk]] || [[Wilson McCoy|McCoy]] ||
|-
|"[[The Flying Horse (daily story)|The Flying Horse]]" || Falk || McCoy ||
|-
|"[[The Wedding of the Phantom]]" || Falk || [[Sy Barry|Barry]] ||
|-
|"[[The Heirs]]" || Falk || Barry ||
|-
|"[[The Star of Bangalla]]" || Falk || Barry ||
|-
|"[[Attack of the Witchmen]]" || Falk || Barry ||
|-
|"[[The Shaman]]" || Falk || [[George Olesen|Olesen]] and [[Keith Williams|Williams]] ||
|-
|}

[[Category:Characters|Axel, Dr]]

Walker's Table

2015-11-04T16:29:18Z

Origen: /* History */ typos

{{character
|name=Walker's Table
|image=
|first= "[[The Art Thieves]]"
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and [[Sy Barry]]
|}}
'''Walker's Table''' is the oldest hiding place of [[the Phantom]], being discovered by the first Phantom's father, but formally coming into ownership during the 2nd Phantom. It is a mesa with a cave on top of it.

==Location==
Walker's Table is located in present-day USA, close enough to the southern border to see the river that is making up the border to Mexico.

==History==
Walker's Table was discovered by [[captain Kit Walker|the 1st Phantom's father]] and his friend [[Caribo]] in the 1490's. They told the future first Phantom about it and he in turn told his son who finally managed to find the location. One of the ancestors, most likely the 2nd Phantom, managed to get ownership of it from a European king.

==Interior==
Walker's Table has a cave house on top of it with modern facilities, making it look like an ordinary flat from the inside, it also has an elevator shaft, that originally merely was used to bring up water from a well, but since the outside elevator was destroyed nowadays is used as the regular elevator.

[[Category:Locations|Walker's Table]]

User:Origen

2015-11-03T21:28:51Z

Origen: wording

Growing up in 1990s [[United Kingdom]], to me the ''[[Phantom 2040 (TV series)|Phantom 2040]]'' TV series ''was'' "The Phantom".

Interested in the "[[The Hunchback]]"/"[[The Mysterious Prisoner]]"/"[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" arc by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]], and hoping for an English translation for all three!

[[User talk:Origen|Give me a shout]] if there's anything I've missed. '''Origen'''

Talk:Fantoom 2/1994

2015-11-03T18:31:00Z

Origen: how about behind the scenes?

To try to fill in the [[The Hunchback#Estonia]], what does the next issue ad give as the title of "The Hunchback"? [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 23:45, 2 November 2015 (CET)
:We have never added any announced but unpublished issue.[[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 17:04, 3 November 2015 (CET)
::Ok :) How about in a "Behind the scenes" section? [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 19:30, 3 November 2015 (CET)

Phantom 2040 (TV series)

2015-11-03T14:02:06Z

Origen: /* Reaction */ punct

'''''Phantom 2040''''' is an animated science fiction television series loosely based on the comic strip hero [[The Phantom]], created by [[Lee Falk]]. The central character of the series is said to be [[the 24th Phantom]]. The unusual character designs are the work of Peter Chung, creator of ''Æon Flux''.

The show debuted in 1994 to rave reviews, though it survived only 33 episodes before it was relegated to weekend repeats in 1996. Along with action sequences, stories focused on intelligent plotting and character development, winning the series praise for its subtle teaching of such values as individuality, freedom, and the volatility of humanity. It also spawned [[Phantom 2040 (comics)|comic book tie-ins]] and other merchandise.

Featured voice actors included Scott Valentine, Margot Kidder, Ron Perlman, and Jeff Bennett, while Mark Hamill, Debbie Harry, Rob Paulsen, and Paul Williams had recurring roles.

==Story==
In the year 2040, environmental disasters and the economic Resource Wars of the early 21st century have decimated the fragile ecological balance of an Earth once teeming with life. Everywhere, the privileged and wealthy continue to thrive in expensive real estate developments that tower above the suffering masses. The victims of Earth’s misfortune have been forced to subsist on scavenged refuse from the past on the mangled streets of forlorn city-states.

In Metropia (once known as New York City), the largest and most powerful of the city-states, the powerful robotics manufacturing corporation Maximum Inc. has slowly shaped a cold, steely urban center, consisting of huge, residential towers intertwined with TubeTrain tunnels. Maximum's robotic "biots" ('''Bi'''ological '''O'''ptical '''T'''ransputer '''S'''ystem) have replaced enormous amounts of human labour, and the corporation is illegally producing prohibited combat biots to form Maximum's personal underground army. Maximum has plans to construct the fortress of Cyberville, an immense survival shelter where only the wealthiest and most elite humans will retreat once Earth finally succumbs to its slowly deteriorating state and Maximum's biot armies take control of Metropia.

The only hope for the survival of humanity is the Ghost Jungle — thousands of square miles of mutated vegetation that may be the planet's salvation. This secret source of life is submerged beneath Metropia where no one is aware of it, but fortunately, college student Kit Walker Jr. is chosen by fate to save the world, donning the black mask and purple suit of his people’s savior, the 24th Phantom.

The role of the Phantom has been passed on from father to son since the 1500s, leading the world to believe that the Phantom is a single immortal individual. Kit, the 24th in the line, is young, unsure, and inexperienced, but he finds within him the courage and might to battle the evil that threatens to destroy the Earth.

==Reaction==
Phantom 2040, unlike the Ghost Who Walks previous animated outing ''Defenders of the Earth'', is
well liked by many Phans. Debuting in 1994 the series received rave reviews from critics and
audience member alike. It was praised for its intelligent stories and character development, hight
quality animation (especially in action scenes) and subtle teaching of such values as individuality,
freedom and the volatility of humanity.

The series was something of a large departure from Lee Falk's original comics. As with ''DotE'' this was a sci-fi series, not a pure jungle adventure show. However, with the Ghost Jungle, an element of the character's jungle origins was kept. The character designs for the series were the work of Peter Chung, creator of the cult hit anime series ''Æon Flux''. While some Phans liked this stylized design others felt that the
characters, especially that of the Phantom were "too skinny."

The series, while critically successful, only lasted for 33 episodes.

==Characters==
*'''Kit Walker, Jr.''' — The 24th Phantom, Kit was not trained for the role like his ancestors were. His father died under mysterious circumstances when he was only a baby, and he grew up not knowing about his heritage. When [[Guran (Phantom 2040)|Guran]] tells him about the Phantom on his eighteenth birthday, he is initially disbelieving, but takes on the role with increasing conviction. His equipment includes optical camouflage for invisibility, a wristband that contains a powerful computer ("analytical"), and another that contains a smart inductance rope. He has several vehicles, including a nimble airborne Hypercycle, a cloaking multi-passenger cruiser and an upgraded 1999 Mustang named "Hero", after the 21st Phantom's [[Hero|horse]]. Voiced by Scott Valentine.
* '''[[Guran (Phantom 2040)|Guran]]''' — Kit's mentor, whose family have been aiding the Phantom for generations. Together with Jack Archer, Guran instructs the Phantom in combat, morality, and life itself, and is frequently seen reciting insightful "[[old jungle sayings]]" to Kit and others. After [[the 23rd Phantom]]'s death, Guran blamed himself, and consumed in his sadness and self-hatred he became the legendary Shadow Panther, until he was freed from his mourning forever by Kit Walker Jr. Voiced by J.D. Hall.
*'''Jack Archer''' — A scientist and professor in biology at Kit's university. After Kit dons the identity of the Phantom, Archer takes only a short time to deduce that they are one and the same, and becomes one of the few who know the Phantom's true identity. Together with Guran, Archer takes on the role of Kit's mentor, particularly in scientific and contemporary parts of his education. Voiced by Alan Oppenheimer.
* '''"Sparks" (Daniel Aguilar)''' — A young, orphaned cyber-surfer who is rescued by Kit after Maximum mistakes Sparks as the Phantom. Sparks is unofficially adopted into the Phantom's lair, and assists in the technological parts of their endeavours. When he was three, his parents, Esteban and María, were kidnapped by Maximum and cruelly used as the mental tissue for the biomechanical "living building" Project Gauntlet, Cyberville's security system. Voiced by Pamela Adlon.
* '''Sagan Cruz''' — A Metropian policewoman or "Enforcer", who is attracted to Kit but is initially unaware of his dual identity, and is skeptical about the Phantom's motives. She later figures out his secret and eventually becomes Kit's love interest and partner. She has a genetically-engineered police dog named D.V.L. (a reference to [[the 21st Phantom]]'s wolf, [[Devil]]) and in combat dons a well-armoured Enforcer suit. Voiced by Leah Remini.
* '''Aunt [[Kit and Heloise|Heloise]]''' — Kit's only living relative, Heloise is the daughter of the 21st Phantom. She kept the truth from Kit, hoping he could lead a normal life, but accepts Kit's choice to become the 24th Phantom and assists him in his plans to stop Maximum Inc. Voiced by Carrie Snodgress.
* '''Rebecca Madison''' — The series villain, chairperson of Maximum Inc. and widow of the 23rd Phantom's killer, Maxwell Madison Sr. Rebecca plans to construct Cyberville, a technological and impenetrable fortress where the select wealthy and elite may seek refuge when the Earth begins to deteriorate (something Rebecca's underground biot army will ensure takes place relatively soon), but her plans of domination are frequently being foiled by the Phantom. Other than Graft and her son, Maxwell Madison Jr., no other humans are employed by Maximum, which has its own biots perform all labour. Voiced by Margot Kidder.
* '''Maxwell Madison Jr.''' — Rebecca's sociopathic son, whose intelligence is belied by his laziness and disinterest in almost everything. When he does have an opinion on something, he presents it as coming from his cat, Baudelaire. He is psychologically disturbed with the disorders being rooted in the loss of his father at such an early age. His cat, perhaps the last remaining symbol of his fathers love for him, is his only and most trusted friend. Voiced by Jeff Bennett.
* '''Hubert Graft''' — Rebecca Madison's Chief of Security and main enforcer, a cyborg who blames the Phantom for his condition. He was formerly an environmentalist who fought against Maximum to protect the Amazonian rainforest, before losing his whole body below the shoulders in combat. Maximum rebuilt Graft's body using biot parts, giving Rebecca Madison complete control over Graft's life. Graft's biot torso can be disconnected at the hip and integrated into other robotic systems over which Graft has complete control, most commonly the Urban Combat Biot Walker, a ten-foot steel exoskeleton armed with lasers and claws. Voiced by Ron Perlman in the first season, and Richard Lynch in the second.
* '''Doctor Jak''' — A cynical TV journalist who reports the Phantom's activities with a flip spin. His arrogance and vanity bring him to believe that rather than being merely a reporter of news, he "is the news". In "Matter Over Mind", it is discovered that after Jak's wife perished in the Grand Central Station crash, he attempted an illegal operation to integrate an analytical computer into his mind, but the operation was interrupted and the analytical program thought lost. Dr. Jak was left part-biot, with sensory implants on his head and a multi-purpose eyepiece which he uses to film his news program, The Dr. Jak Show. His character and the way in which he criminalises the Phantom are comparable to J. Jonah Jameson of ''Spider-Man''. Voiced by Mark Hamill.
* '''Mr. Cairo''' — A mysterious information broker who only appears in holographic transmissions and who deals with both the Phantom and Maximum Inc. Early on, he discovers the Phantom's true identity, but chooses to withhold the information from Rebecca Madison despite the enormous reward being offered. He is later revealed to actually be the sentient analytical program separated from Dr. Jak's consciousness, but he decides not to rejoin Dr. Jak's mind and instead stays on to loyally assist the Phantom. Voiced by Paul Williams.
* '''Sean One''' — The first human born in outer space and founder and leader of the Free Orbital Movement, Sean One seeks independence for his Orbital colonies. An arrogant and abnormally tall man, he resorts to espionage and terrorist attacks in order to achieve his ends and is unable to walk by himself while in the presence of gravity. He is revered among the Orbitals' inhabitants in an almost god-like way, and is extremely apathetic towards whom he calls the "gravity-slaves" of Earth. Voiced by Rob Paulsen.
* '''Gorda''' — A morbidly-obese crime lord and smuggler from Australia who is unable to move by herself and has an army of strong, red-tinted biots under her command. She refers to herself in third-person and has a well-armed robotic kangaroo as her sole companion. Voiced by Paddi Edwards.
* '''Heisenberg''' — A shape-shifting fractal biot built by Max Madison Jr. using nanites grown in space by Sean One, named by Maxwell after the German physicist Werner Heisenberg. Heisenberg is the first stable fractal biot created by Maximum, and is controlled by Maxwell using a separate remote brain which must be carried around in a case. Heisenberg is forced to impersonate the Phantom and succeeds in criminalising him with the help of Dr. Jak, but after a confrontation with the Phantom, Maxwell loses the remote brain and hence control of Heisenberg. Afterwards, the fractal biot gains independence and a form of sentience, dons a cloak and seeks answers for his past, remembering nothing of his creation other than his name. He meets a wise street saxophonist named Betty, and after deciding to take his own path, becomes a "teacher" to biots everywhere, helping them to be free from their human owners and become self-aware. Heisenberg eventually joins the Phantom and becomes a close companion to Pavlova, Dr. Jak's assistant. Voiced by Rob Paulsen.
* '''Pavlova''' - Dr. Jak's personal biot assistant, distinguishable by red symbols on her face. Pavlova sometimes questions the honesty and morality of Jak's news uploads, but always has her memory wiped by Jak afterwards (a task he does somewhat reluctantly). Nicknamed "Pav" by Jak, the reporter treats her as his friend and sometimes even in a joking, romantic way, due to the fact that Pavlova was named after Jak's late wife. Pavlova also befriends Heisenberg, who takes an interest in her. She ultimately tells Jak "I will program myself from now on." At which later Jak laments, "You just had to be your own person, just like her." Referring to Pav' name sake. Voiced by Liz Georges.
* '''Vaingloria''' — A popular starlet singer trained by Maximum Inc. to brainwash the public. It is known that Rebecca Madison found her as a street urchin and offered her food, shelter and fame in exchange for her services for Maximum. Rebecca had her fitted with retractable mirrors which can focus light to such a strength that looking at the mirrors can overload the mind's senses, tricking the public's minds into adoring her and on Maximum's orders using them to completely brainwash certain people (it can be assumed that the mirrors are difficult to control with precision, as Vaingloria once accidentally sent a victim into a coma). Vaingloria reluctantly takes part in several of Maximum's plots and becomes particularly close to Graft, who treats her in a (albeit cold) fatherly way. He ultimately hardwires her mirrors she can use them on her own. Voiced by Deborah Harry.
* '''Betty''' — A wise street saxophonist who becomes Heisenberg's best friend and companion. She is seen to be aware of everything around her and frequently relating life to the blues. Voiced by Iona Morris.
* '''Maxwell Madison Sr.''' — Rebecca's deceased husband, who was killed along with the 23rd Phantom in a toxic train wreck. Rebecca captured his brainwaves and stores them in an enormous computer, and is constantly seeking a stable way to transfer them into a biot or preferably a living body to effectively resurrect Maxwell Madison Sr. He was regarded as a very dangerous and power-hungry man when he was alive and in control of Maximum, Inc, but it is discovered that his plans for the world were very ecologically beneficial and that his ambitious wife Rebecca sabotaged his plans in favor of greedy, selfish world domination. Voiced by Jeff Bennett.

==Episode list==
===Season 1===
#[[Generation Unto Generation (part 1)]]
#[[Generation Unto Generation (part 2)]]
#[[The Sum of the Parts]]
#[[Fire and I.C.E.]]
#[[Reflections of Glory]]
#[[Shadows from the Past]]
#[[The Good Mark (Phantom 2040 episode)|The Good Mark]]
#[[Ghost in the Machine]]
#[[Dark Orbit (part 1)]]
#[[Dark Orbit (part 2)]]
#[[The Biot in Red]]
#[[The Gauntlet]]
#[[Three Into One]]
#[[Life Lessons]]
#[[The Magician]]
#[[Swifter, Higher, Faster]]
#[[Lasers in the Jungle]]
#[[Down the Line]]
#[[Control Group]]
#[[A Boy and His Cat]]

===Season 2===
#[[Rite of Passage]]
#[[Sanctuary]]
#[[The Ties that Bind]]
#[[The Woman in the Moon]]
#[[Matter Over Mind]]
#[[The Sins of the Fathers (part 1)]]
#[[The Sins of the Fathers (part 2)]]
#[[The Sacrifice (part 1)]]
#[[The Sacrifice (part 2)]]
#[[Rogue]]
#[[The Second Time Around]]
#[[The Furies]]
#[[Moments of Truth]]
#[[The Whole Truth]]

==Video game==
:''See [[Phantom 2040 (video game)]]''

A ''[[Phantom 2040 (video game)|Phantom 2040]]'' video game was produced for [[Sega Genesis]], [[Game Gear]] and [[Super NES]], and like the animated series, it received very positive reviews despite its obscurity. It is possible to play as both the Phantom and, in the Game Gear version, his alter-ego, Kit Walker. The game has over 20 different endings, depending on the choices the player makes while progressing through the story, and revolves around Rebecca Madison's attempts to create a biot army, revive her dead husband and seize control of both Metropia and the world.

==Comic books==
:''See [[Phantom 2040 (comics)]]''
''Phantom 2040'' was adapted into a comic book series by [[Marvel Comics]] in 1995 (cover dated May-Aug. 1995). Only four issues were published, released as a mini-series . The stories were only loosely based on the TV series, and had a different tone than the dark, complicated animated show. The comic book was written by [[Peter Quinones]], pencilled by [[Steve Ditko]], and inked by [[Bill Reinhold]]. Each issue featured a free poster drawn by such artists as [[John Romita Sr]].

==VHS and DVD editions==
Many episodes of the series have been released on VHS and DVD, but a definitive collection is yet to come. A DVD called ''[[Phantom 2040: The Ghost Who Walks]]'' was released in 2004, and includes the first five episodes of the series edited into a "movie". Many other episodes were released on VHS in the late 1990s:

*[[Phantom 2040: Volume 1|Generation Unto Generation (part 1 & 2)]]
*[[Phantom 2040: Volume 2|Fire and I.C.E. / The Sum of the Parts]]
*[[Phantom 2040: Volume 3|Dark Orbit (part 1 & 2)]]
*[[Phantom 2040: Volume 4|The Ghost in the Machine / The Biot in Red]]

==Trivia==
* The second episode begins with a 'recorded' voiceover that is preceded by a sound effect originally created by the BBC Radiophonic Workshop for the UK radio series ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''. It is the sound the Guide makes before responding to a question.

*The Phantoms multi-purpose vehicle was named H.E.R.O. after the comic strip Phantoms' horse [[Hero]].

*Sagan Cruz, the 24th Phantom's love interest and future police officer works with a cyborg police dog named D.V.L, a reference to the 21st Phantom's wolf [[Devil]].

*In the Phantom 2040 video game the initials J.P can be found spray painted on the walls of the subway which contains the Ghost Jungle, a reference to the [[Jungle Patrol]] from the comic strip.

*For some unknown reason, the Phantom legacy is said to have started in 1566 instead of 1536 as in the comics.

==Recurring cast==
* The Phantom/ Kit Walker....Scott Valentine
* Rebecca Madison....Margrot Kidder
* Guran....J. D. Hall
* Jack Archer....Alan Oppenheimer
* Sagan Cruz....Leah Remini
* Aunt Heloise.... Carrie Snodgress
* Maxwell Madison Jr....Jeff Bennett
* Graft....Ron Perlman (season one)/ Richard Lynch (rest of series)
* Doctor Jack.... Mark Hamill
* Sean One/ Heisenberg.... Rob Paulsen
== Show credits ==
*Based on the Character Created by Lee Falk
*Developed for Television by David J. Corbett
*Executive Story Editors Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
*Additional Development by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
*Supervising Producer Mary Chojnowski Corbett
*Associate Producer Mary Katherine Moore
*Line Producers Gwen Wetzler, Michel Lyman
*Art Director/Conceptual Designer Thom Schillinger
*Original Model Design Peter Chung
*Additional Model Design Paula La Fond, Stephanie Pyren-Fortel, Eric Canete
*Storyboards Romeo Francisco, Aleta Estes, David Williams, Rex Irvine, Vincenzo Tripetti
*Storyboard Cleanup Cesar Magsombol, Art Lee, John Lee, Peter Pace, Vincent Michael Edwards
*Color Key Allyn Conley, Jane Lane
*Color Key Assistant Darcee Frisch Olson
*Computer Graphics Thomas Kim
*Background Layout Jesse Santos, Nick Pugh, Melissa Suber, Vladimir Spasojevic
*Background Color Barbara Schade, Rebecca Jo Morales, Voice Direction, Stu Rosen
*Production Manager Andrew J. Leith
*Production Controllers Loretta Abata Elliot
*Assistant to the Executive Producer Miken Lee Wong
*Educational Consultant John Arnold
*Production Executive Steve Herman
*Production Coordinators Shareena Carlson, Lisa Larrick, Jamie Adner - NYC
*Production Assistants Katharine Nartonis, Courtney Narz, Bryan Thompson, Stefan Marks
*Music Composed & Performed by Gerald O'Brien
*Additional Music by Larry Brown, Steve Sexton
*Songs by David J. Corbett and Gerald O'Brien
*Pre-Edit/Track Reader Laurie Wetzler
*Post Production Audio France: H2 Prod., Montage, Sapa PM
*Dialogue Recording and Editing The L.A. Studios, Inc
*Animation Direction Vincent Bassol, Michel Lyman, Mike Kaweski, Bertrand Tager Kagan
*Production Supervisors France: Scott La Barge, Korea: Mike Kaweski
*Post Production Supervisor/Editor France: Scott La Barge, Los Angeles: D.J. Graham
*French Production Adapter France Helene Joubaud
*Supervising Producer Rene Huchez, Barham Rohani
*Production Manager Caroline Guicheux
*Production Supervisor Jean Marc Desrosiers, Michel Gantier
*Animation Production Sei Young Animation Co., Ltd.
*Executives in Charge Choi An Hee, Cho Jung Jin
*Executive Producers William E. Miller, David Corbett, Jeffrey Schon
*Produced by Hearst Entertainment Inc., Minos S.A., France 3
*Created for Television by Hearst Entertainment, Inc.

==External links==
* [http://www.reeves-stevens.com/phantom.html Official Phantom 2040 website of the main writers of the series]
* [http://www.coldcut.com/video/p2040/ Phantom 2040 - The Ghost Jungle]

[[Category:Adaptations]]

{{Wikipedia|October 11, 2007|Phantom 2040}}

User talk:Origen

2015-11-03T11:37:42Z

Origen: intro wording

Hi, feel free to leave me a message [http://www.phantomwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Origen&action=edit&section=new in a new section]. I'll reply here to keep the conversation in one place. '''[[User:Origen|Origen]]'''

Lothar

2015-11-03T02:38:57Z

Origen: Wedding StoryLink: not Sunday/week specific

{{character
|name=Lothar
|image=
|first= 1934 (as a character) "[[The Wedding of the Phantom]]" (in The Phantom strip)
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and Phil Davis
|}}
'''Lothar''' is the the closest friend of [[Mandrake the Magician]], the title character in the American comic strip. He made a guest appearance in "[[The Phantom]]" together with Mandrake in the story [[The Wedding of the Phantom (Sunday story)|The Wedding of the Phantom]].

Lothar is a member of the [[Wambesi]], and Prince of the Seven Nations. {{Storylink|The Wedding of the Phantom|The Wedding of the Phantom}}

Lothar is in a relationship with Karma.

==Futuristic Settings==
In [[Defenders of the Earth]], Lothar is one of the defenders, and has the son L.J.

In [[King's Watch]], Lothar is given the surname Kehwabe.

==Appearances==
{{AllApp}}
''This list only include stories where both Lothar ''and'' The Phantom has appeared.''

===[[Daily]] and [[Sunday stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[The Wedding of the Phantom]]" || [[Lee Falk|Falk]] || [[Sy Barry|Barry]] ||
|-
|"[[The Escaped Convicts]]" || Falk || Barry || dream sequence, [[Defenders of the Earth]] promotion
|-
|"[[The Heirs]]" || Falk || Barry ||
|-
|"[[Mr Big]]" || Falk || [[George Olesen|Olesen]], [[Keith Williams|Williams]] ||
|-
|"[[On the Trail of an Assassin]]" || [[Tony DePaul|DePaul]] ||[[Graham Nolan|Nolan]] || flashback
|-
|"[[Mandrake's Bon Voyage]]" || [[Tony DePaul|DePaul]] ||[[Terry Beatty|Beatty]] ||
|-
|}

===[[DC stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Framed Part 2]]" || [[Mark Verheiden|Verheiden]] || [[Luke McDonnell|McDonnell]] ||
|-
|}

===[[Dynamite stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 1]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 2]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 3]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 4]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 5]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|}

===[[Marvel stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Defenders of the Earth (story)|Defenders of the Earth]]" || [[Stan Lee|Lee]], [[Bob Harras|Harras]] || [[Alex Saviuk|Saviuk]], [[Fred Fredericks|Fredericks]] ||
|-
|"[[Creation]]" || [[Michael Higgins|Higgins]] || Saviuk, Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Family Honor]]" || Higgins || Saviuk, Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Magical Child]]" || Higgins || Saviuk, Fredericks ||
|-
|}

===[[Moonstone stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Jewel of Denial]]" || [[Mike Bullock|Bullock]] || [[Samicler Gonçalves|Gonçalves]] ||
|-
|"[[Concrete Jungle]]" || Bullock, [[Kevin Grevioux|Grevioux]] || [[Samicler Gonçalves|Gonçalves]] ||
|-
|}

===Phantom appearances in the Mandrake strip===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Mandrake in North Africa]]" || [[Lee Falk|Falk]] || Davis || indirect reference, Lothar becomes prince of [[Wambesi]] Remade as the comic book story "[[Jungle Drums]]"
|-
|"[[The Blackout Caper]]" || Falk || [[Fred Fredericks|Fredericks]] || cameo, on tv
|-
|"[[The Clay Camel (plus Women's Lib!)]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, on a comic book cover
|-
|"[[The Hijacking]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, on a comic book cover
|-
|"[[The Lost City (Mandrake story)|The Lost City]]" || Falk || Fredericks || [[Defenders of the Earth]] promotion
|-
|"[[Mr Ttazz]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, Kit Walker mentioned and seen as a picture
|-
|"[[Matter Mover]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, Kit Walker mentioned and seen as a statue
|-
|"[[Pursuit of the Cobra]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, Phantom mask in a toy shop
|-
|"[[Mandrake's Wedding at Xanadu]]" || Falk || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Siege at Xanadu]]" || Fredericks || Frederics || cameo, on TV and on a comic book cover
|-
|"[[The Haunted Ballroom]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || cameo, on a t-shirt
|-
|"[[The Missing Aviatrix]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Lights! Camera! Danger!]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Return of the Tourist]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || cameo, on a t-shirt
|-
|"[[Shadows on Devil Road]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Blizzard of Crime]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || cameo, [[The Phantom (1996 film)|Phantom movie]] tag line on a t-shirt
|-
|"[[Still Lovely, Still Deadly]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[The Unknown Island]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || mentioned only
|-
|}

[[Category:Characters]]

Wambesi

2015-11-03T02:38:45Z

Origen: Wedding StoryLink: not Sunday/week specific

{{character
|name=Wambesi
|image=
|first= "[[The Phantom's Treasure]]"
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and [[Ray Moore]]
|}}
The '''Wambesi''' is the greatest tribe in the [[Bangalla]] jungle. The current chief is [[Wambatta of Wambesi|Wambatta]]. A well known member of the tribe is [[Lothar]], friend of [[Mandrake the Magician]] and prince of the seven nations. {{Storylink|The Wedding of the Phantom|The Wedding of the Phantom}}

The Wambesi people are farmers and keep cattle, but loathe goats. Conversely, their biggest rivals, the [[Llongo]] keep goats, as eating cattle makes them ill. {{Storylink|The Snake Goddess|The Snake Goddess}}

{{stub}}
[[Category:Tribes]]

Lothar

2015-11-03T02:37:06Z

Origen: clarifying Wambesi/prince with StoryLink

{{character
|name=Lothar
|image=
|first= 1934 (as a character) "[[The Wedding of the Phantom]]" (in The Phantom strip)
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and Phil Davis
|}}
'''Lothar''' is the the closest friend of [[Mandrake the Magician]], the title character in the American comic strip. He made a guest appearance in "[[The Phantom]]" together with Mandrake in the story [[The Wedding of the Phantom (Sunday story)|The Wedding of the Phantom]].

Lothar is a member of the [[Wambesi]], and Prince of the Seven Nations. {{Storylink|The Wedding of the Phantom (Sunday story)|The Wedding of the Phantom}}

Lothar is in a relationship with Karma.

==Futuristic Settings==
In [[Defenders of the Earth]], Lothar is one of the defenders, and has the son L.J.

In [[King's Watch]], Lothar is given the surname Kehwabe.

==Appearances==
{{AllApp}}
''This list only include stories where both Lothar ''and'' The Phantom has appeared.''

===[[Daily]] and [[Sunday stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[The Wedding of the Phantom]]" || [[Lee Falk|Falk]] || [[Sy Barry|Barry]] ||
|-
|"[[The Escaped Convicts]]" || Falk || Barry || dream sequence, [[Defenders of the Earth]] promotion
|-
|"[[The Heirs]]" || Falk || Barry ||
|-
|"[[Mr Big]]" || Falk || [[George Olesen|Olesen]], [[Keith Williams|Williams]] ||
|-
|"[[On the Trail of an Assassin]]" || [[Tony DePaul|DePaul]] ||[[Graham Nolan|Nolan]] || flashback
|-
|"[[Mandrake's Bon Voyage]]" || [[Tony DePaul|DePaul]] ||[[Terry Beatty|Beatty]] ||
|-
|}

===[[DC stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Framed Part 2]]" || [[Mark Verheiden|Verheiden]] || [[Luke McDonnell|McDonnell]] ||
|-
|}

===[[Dynamite stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 1]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 2]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 3]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 4]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|"[[Kings Watch Part 5]]" || [[Jeff Parker|Parker]] || [[Marc Laming|Laming]] ||
|-
|}

===[[Marvel stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Defenders of the Earth (story)|Defenders of the Earth]]" || [[Stan Lee|Lee]], [[Bob Harras|Harras]] || [[Alex Saviuk|Saviuk]], [[Fred Fredericks|Fredericks]] ||
|-
|"[[Creation]]" || [[Michael Higgins|Higgins]] || Saviuk, Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Family Honor]]" || Higgins || Saviuk, Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Magical Child]]" || Higgins || Saviuk, Fredericks ||
|-
|}

===[[Moonstone stories]]===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Jewel of Denial]]" || [[Mike Bullock|Bullock]] || [[Samicler Gonçalves|Gonçalves]] ||
|-
|"[[Concrete Jungle]]" || Bullock, [[Kevin Grevioux|Grevioux]] || [[Samicler Gonçalves|Gonçalves]] ||
|-
|}

===Phantom appearances in the Mandrake strip===
{| {{table}}
!Title !!Writer !!Artist !! Comments
|-
|"[[Mandrake in North Africa]]" || [[Lee Falk|Falk]] || Davis || indirect reference, Lothar becomes prince of [[Wambesi]] Remade as the comic book story "[[Jungle Drums]]"
|-
|"[[The Blackout Caper]]" || Falk || [[Fred Fredericks|Fredericks]] || cameo, on tv
|-
|"[[The Clay Camel (plus Women's Lib!)]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, on a comic book cover
|-
|"[[The Hijacking]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, on a comic book cover
|-
|"[[The Lost City (Mandrake story)|The Lost City]]" || Falk || Fredericks || [[Defenders of the Earth]] promotion
|-
|"[[Mr Ttazz]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, Kit Walker mentioned and seen as a picture
|-
|"[[Matter Mover]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, Kit Walker mentioned and seen as a statue
|-
|"[[Pursuit of the Cobra]]" || Falk || Fredericks || cameo, Phantom mask in a toy shop
|-
|"[[Mandrake's Wedding at Xanadu]]" || Falk || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Siege at Xanadu]]" || Fredericks || Frederics || cameo, on TV and on a comic book cover
|-
|"[[The Haunted Ballroom]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || cameo, on a t-shirt
|-
|"[[The Missing Aviatrix]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Lights! Camera! Danger!]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Return of the Tourist]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || cameo, on a t-shirt
|-
|"[[Shadows on Devil Road]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[Blizzard of Crime]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || cameo, [[The Phantom (1996 film)|Phantom movie]] tag line on a t-shirt
|-
|"[[Still Lovely, Still Deadly]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks ||
|-
|"[[The Unknown Island]]" || Fredericks || Fredericks || mentioned only
|-
|}

[[Category:Characters]]

Wambesi

2015-11-03T02:34:48Z

Origen: wording; StoryLink template

{{character
|name=Wambesi
|image=
|first= "[[The Phantom's Treasure]]"
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and [[Ray Moore]]
|}}
The '''Wambesi''' is the greatest tribe in the [[Bangalla]] jungle. The current chief is [[Wambatta of Wambesi|Wambatta]]. A well known member of the tribe is [[Lothar]], friend of [[Mandrake the Magician]] and prince of the seven nations. {{Storylink|The Wedding of the Phantom (Sunday story)|The Wedding of the Phantom}}

The Wambesi people are farmers and keep cattle, but loathe goats. Conversely, their biggest rivals, the [[Llongo]] keep goats, as eating cattle makes them ill. {{Storylink|The Snake Goddess|The Snake Goddess}}

{{stub}}
[[Category:Tribes]]

Llongo

2015-11-03T02:29:05Z

Origen: wording

{{character
|name=Llongo
|image=
|first= "[[The Diamond Hunters]]"
|creators= [[Lee Falk]] and [[Ray Moore]]
|}}
The '''Llongo''' are the second greatest tribe in the [[Bangalla]] jungle. A long time chief was [[Llionto of Llongo|Llionto]], the uncle of president [[Lamanda Luaga]]. The current chief is the young Queen of Llongo. {{Storylink|The Phantom Lion|The Phantom Lion}} Another well known member of the tribe is Llionto's son [[Tom-Tom]], the best friend of [[21st Phantom|the Phantom's]] foster son [[Rex]].

The Llongo people are farmers and their symbol is either a two-headed bull or a two-headed gazelle - different stories tell different versions. The tribe is best known for its legendary luck, but throughout history their relations with the [[Wambesi]] tribe have been troubled.

For some reason, the Llongo people get sick if they eat cattle, and they therefore keep goats instead. {{Storylink|The Snake Goddess|The Snake Goddess}}

{{stub}}
[[Category:Tribes]]

Phantom 2040 1

2015-11-02T23:20:05Z

Origen: standardising preceded by: N/A

{{issuebox
|Title=Phantom 2040 #1 
|image= [[Image:Phantom_2040_1.jpg|200px]]
|Coverartist=[[Neil Hansen]]
|Country= [[Image:mini_usa.gif]] USA / English
|Editor= [[Mariano Nicieza]]
|Format= 17 × 26 cm
|Pages= 36 pgs, full color
|Date= May, 1995
|Publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
|Preceded=N/A
|Followed=[[Phantom 2040 2|''Phantom 2040'' #2]]
|isbn= 
|}}
'''''Phantom 2040'' #1'''

== Contents ==
=== Stories ===
*"[[Generation Unto Generation]]" by [[Peter Quinones]], [[Steve Ditko]] and [[Bill Reinhold]].

[[Category:Phantom 2040 issues|Phantom 2040 1]]

The Hunchback

2015-11-02T23:14:28Z

Origen: /* Image:mini_brazil.gif Brazil */ stray )

{{Magazinebox
|Title=The Hunchback
|image=
|1st=[[Fantomen 1/1989|''Fantomen'' 1/1989]]
|Pages=
|Writer= [[Michael Tierres]]
|Artist= [[Jaime Vallvé]]
|Producer=[[Semic Press]]
|}}
'''"The Hunchback"''' is a 1989 [[Team Fantomen]] story, written by [[Michael Tierres]], with art by [[Jaime Vallvé]].

==Plot summary==
{{stub}}
=== Appearances ===
<div style="float:left; width:50%;">
'''Recurring characters'''

</div><div style="float:right; width:50%;">
'''Locations'''

</div> 

== Related stories ==

=== Followed by ===
*"[[The Mysterious Prisoner]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]
*"[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]

== Reprints ==
This story has been published in the following publications:

=== [[Image:mini_brazil.gif]] Brazil ===
*"O Corcunda", [[Fantasma Extra 20 (Globo)|''Fantasma Extra'' #20]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_denmark.gif|border]] Denmark ===
*"Giftmordet", [[Fantomet 314|''Fantomet'' #314]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_estonia.gif|border]] Estonia ===
*"?", Fantoom 3/1994 ([[Fantoom (ULF)|unpublished]])

=== [[Image:mini_finland.gif|border]] Finland ===
*"Kovaa peliä", [[Mustanaamio 13/1989|''Mustanaamio'' 13/1989]]
*"Kovaa peliä", [[Mustanaamion kronikka 4/1996|''Mustanaamion kronikka'' 4/1996]]

=== [[Image:mini_norway.gif]] Norway ===
*"Pukkelryggen", [[Fantomet 12/1989|''Fantomet'' 12/1989]]
*"Pukkelryggen", [[Fantomets Krønike 3/1994|''Fantomets Krønike'' 3/1994]]

=== [[Image:mini_sweden.gif]] Sweden ===
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen 1/1989|''Fantomen'' 1/1989]]
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen Krönika 1/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 1/1994]]
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen Krönika Band 2|''Fantomen Krönika'' Band 2]] (2000)

[[Category:Team Fantomen stories|Hunchback, The]]

The Hunchback

2015-11-02T23:13:40Z

Origen: /* Reprints */ formatting Brazil/Denmark

{{Magazinebox
|Title=The Hunchback
|image=
|1st=[[Fantomen 1/1989|''Fantomen'' 1/1989]]
|Pages=
|Writer= [[Michael Tierres]]
|Artist= [[Jaime Vallvé]]
|Producer=[[Semic Press]]
|}}
'''"The Hunchback"''' is a 1989 [[Team Fantomen]] story, written by [[Michael Tierres]], with art by [[Jaime Vallvé]].

==Plot summary==
{{stub}}
=== Appearances ===
<div style="float:left; width:50%;">
'''Recurring characters'''

</div><div style="float:right; width:50%;">
'''Locations'''

</div> 

== Related stories ==

=== Followed by ===
*"[[The Mysterious Prisoner]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]
*"[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]

== Reprints ==
This story has been published in the following publications:

=== [[Image:mini_brazil.gif]] Brazil ===
*"O Corcunda", [[Fantasma Extra 20 (Globo)|''Fantasma Extra'' #20)]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_denmark.gif|border]] Denmark ===
*"Giftmordet", [[Fantomet 314|''Fantomet'' #314]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_estonia.gif|border]] Estonia ===
*"?", Fantoom 3/1994 ([[Fantoom (ULF)|unpublished]])

=== [[Image:mini_finland.gif|border]] Finland ===
*"Kovaa peliä", [[Mustanaamio 13/1989|''Mustanaamio'' 13/1989]]
*"Kovaa peliä", [[Mustanaamion kronikka 4/1996|''Mustanaamion kronikka'' 4/1996]]

=== [[Image:mini_norway.gif]] Norway ===
*"Pukkelryggen", [[Fantomet 12/1989|''Fantomet'' 12/1989]]
*"Pukkelryggen", [[Fantomets Krønike 3/1994|''Fantomets Krønike'' 3/1994]]

=== [[Image:mini_sweden.gif]] Sweden ===
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen 1/1989|''Fantomen'' 1/1989]]
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen Krönika 1/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 1/1994]]
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen Krönika Band 2|''Fantomen Krönika'' Band 2]] (2000)

[[Category:Team Fantomen stories|Hunchback, The]]

User talk:Origen

2015-11-02T22:57:21Z

Origen: Created page with "Hi, feel free to leave me a message [http://www.phantomwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Origen&action=edit&section=new in a new section], and I'll reply here to keep the con..."

Hi, feel free to leave me a message [http://www.phantomwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Origen&action=edit&section=new in a new section], and I'll reply here to keep the conversation in one place. '''[[User:Origen|Origen]]'''

User:Origen

2015-11-02T22:54:54Z

Origen: Created page with "Growing up in 1990s United Kingdom, to me the ''Phantom 2040'' TV series ''was'' "The Phantom". Interested in the "The Hunchback"/"The..."

Growing up in 1990s [[United Kingdom]], to me the ''[[Phantom 2040 (TV series)|Phantom 2040]]'' TV series ''was'' "The Phantom".

Interested in the "[[The Hunchback]]"/"[[The Mysterious Prisoner]]"/"[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" arc by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]], and hoping for an English translation for all three one day!

[[User talk:Origen|Give me a shout]] if there's anything I've missed. '''Origen'''

Talk:Fantoom 2/1994

2015-11-02T22:45:34Z

Origen: Created page with "To try to fill in the The Hunchback#Estonia, what does the next issue ad give as the title of "The Hunchback"? ~~~~"

To try to fill in the [[The Hunchback#Estonia]], what does the next issue ad give as the title of "The Hunchback"? [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 23:45, 2 November 2015 (CET)

The Hunchback

2015-11-02T22:34:08Z

Origen: Created page with "{{Magazinebox |Title=The Hunchback |image= |1st=''Fantomen'' 1/1989 |Pages= |Writer= Michael Tierres |Artist= Jaime Vallvé |Producer=Semic Pre..."

{{Magazinebox
|Title=The Hunchback
|image=
|1st=[[Fantomen 1/1989|''Fantomen'' 1/1989]]
|Pages=
|Writer= [[Michael Tierres]]
|Artist= [[Jaime Vallvé]]
|Producer=[[Semic Press]]
|}}
'''"The Hunchback"''' is a 1989 [[Team Fantomen]] story, written by [[Michael Tierres]], with art by [[Jaime Vallvé]].

==Plot summary==
{{stub}}
=== Appearances ===
<div style="float:left; width:50%;">
'''Recurring characters'''

</div><div style="float:right; width:50%;">
'''Locations'''

</div> 

== Related stories ==

=== Followed by ===
*"[[The Mysterious Prisoner]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]
*"[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]

== Reprints ==
This story has been published in the following publications:

=== [[Image:mini_brazil.gif]] Brazil ===
*"O Corcunda", [[Fantasma Extra 20 (Globo)|''Fantasma Extra'' 20 (Globo)]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_denmark.gif]] Denmark ===
*"Giftmordet", [[Fantomet 314|''Fantomet'' 314]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_estonia.gif|border]] Estonia ===
*"?", Fantoom 3/1994 ([[Fantoom (ULF)|unpublished]])

=== [[Image:mini_finland.gif|border]] Finland ===
*"Kovaa peliä", [[Mustanaamio 13/1989|''Mustanaamio'' 13/1989]]
*"Kovaa peliä", [[Mustanaamion kronikka 4/1996|''Mustanaamion kronikka'' 4/1996]]

=== [[Image:mini_norway.gif]] Norway ===
*"Pukkelryggen", [[Fantomet 12/1989|''Fantomet'' 12/1989]]
*"Pukkelryggen", [[Fantomets Krønike 3/1994|''Fantomets Krønike'' 3/1994]]

=== [[Image:mini_sweden.gif]] Sweden ===
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen 1/1989|''Fantomen'' 1/1989]]
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen Krönika 1/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 1/1994]]
*"Puckelryggen", [[Fantomen Krönika Band 2|''Fantomen Krönika'' Band 2]] (2000)

[[Category:Team Fantomen stories|Hunchback, The]]

PhantomWiki:Bandar Village

2015-11-02T15:07:43Z

Origen: /* Guy Fawkes / "Minute of the Pale Death" */ editing Tropes Wikia link

Welcome to PhantomWiki's own '''Bandar Village'''! Here is the place to have discussions and put up question that are too general to be posted on any talk page. Please note that discussions concerning individual articles are to be hold in that article's talk page.

When starting a new discussion, please add it at the bottom of the page, and use a valid title.

As always when on PhantomWiki, remember to keep a friendly tone, and to always [[PhantomWiki:Assume good faith|assume good faith]].

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=== Countries Template ===
I believe necessary to delete the name Martinique from the list of countries mentioned in the “Phantom publications by country” template, this island being not an independent country but a French overseas department located in the Caribbean Sea. Furthermore, at least to the best of my knowledge, any native Phantom comic-book has been published there. [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 12:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

:There was something in newspapers. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have also thought of that, but I'm still unable to identify such local newspapers. Somebody could help ? More largely, it however remains a logical matter: if the list ought to be devoted to countries, Martinique has not the same status as the other names...I suggest to omit it, at least until some concrete publishing information might be found. If so, and only then, we would have to cite namely Martinique, either in the French global list with a mention of "special local publication", either under its actual list location.[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 05:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:There is definitely a problem mentioned here; should only independent countries be listed here? There are several territories around the world that is under ther rule of som country, but have a little kind of independence. I know that the USA has several such territories, as have France and the UK and probably a few other countries. One example that I know of is Puerto Rico, which has a couple of millions of inabitants and has independent internal rule, but otherwise is part of the USA (they voted in 1993 to remain in their current status and not become the 51st State of America). Should such "countries" (or "territories") have a page of their own if they have published "[[The Phantom]]"? or should any publication be listed under the country to which it "belong"? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 14:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

From what is rightly pointed out by Karl, I finally think that the concept of countries is not primordial and that territories having their own powers of autonomy might be listed too, at least when some local Phantom publication is identified. So, in a first time, only “real” countries would be cited within the global list, and in another time, this one could be completed with more "distant territories" when something specific is known to be published there. However, even in the latter case, would not it be useful to name the territories into some kind of brackets in order to distinguish them more clearly and show that we knew they are not similar than “ordinary countries”… ? What seems important is to not adding a flow of territories names when any local Phantom publication is really linked.[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 13:06, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

:We could put the territories after the real countries in a smaller text like I have done here below with Martinique as a test. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 16:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::On my PC the difference is hardly visible. I have added another way of showing 'dependencies' (if this is the way we want to categorize them). --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 08:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

{|
!colspan="2" style="background-color:#ddeeee"| Phantom publications by country
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Europe
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Belgium|Belgium]] • [[The Phantom publications in Croatia|Croatia]] • [[The Phantom publications in the Czech Republic|Czech Republic]] • [[The Phantom publications in Denmark|Denmark]] • [[The Phantom publications in Estonia|Estonia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Finland|Finland]] • [[The Phantom publications in France|France]] • [[The Phantom publications in Germany|Germany]] • [[The Phantom publications in Greece|Greece]] • [[The Phantom publications in Hungary|Hungary]] • [[The Phantom publications in Italy|Italy]] • [[The Phantom publications in the Netherlands|Netherlands]] • [[The Phantom publications in Norway|Norway]] • [[The Phantom publications in Poland|Poland]] • [[The Phantom publications in Portugal|Portugal]] • [[The Phantom publications in Russia|Russia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Slovakia|Slovakia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Slovenia|Slovenia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Spain|Spain]] • [[The Phantom publications in Sweden|Sweden]] • [[The Phantom publications in Turkey|Turkey]] • [[The Phantom publications in the United Kingdom|United Kingdom]] • [[The Phantom publications in Yugoslavia|Yugoslavia]]
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Americas
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Argentina|Argentina]] • [[The Phantom publications in Brazil|Brazil]] • [[The Phantom publications in Canada|Canada]] • [[The Phantom publications in Chile|Chile]] • [[The Phantom publications in Colombia|Colombia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Mexico|Mexico]] • [[The Phantom publications in Panama|Panama]] • [[The Phantom publications in Uruguay|Uruguay]] • [[The Phantom publications in the USA|USA]] • [[The Phantom publications in Venezuela|Venezuela]] • [[The Phantom publications in Martinique|Martinique]]
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Americas version 2
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Argentina|Argentina]] • [[The Phantom publications in Barbados|Barbados (Canada)]] • [[The Phantom publications in Barbados|Barbados]] • [[The Phantom publications in Brazil|Brazil]] • [[The Phantom publications in Canada|Canada]] • [[The Phantom publications in Chile|Chile]] • [[The Phantom publications in Colombia|Colombia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Mexico|Mexico]] • [[The Phantom publications in Panama|Panama]] • [[The Phantom publications in Uruguay|Uruguay]] • [[The Phantom publications in the USA|USA]] • [[The Phantom publications in Venezuela|Venezuela]] • [[The Phantom publications in Martinique|Martinique (France)]]
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Other
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Angola|Angola]] • [[The Phantom publications in Australia|Australia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Egypt|Egypt]] • [[The Phantom publications in Fiji|Fiji]] • [[The Phantom publications in India|India]] • [[The Phantom publications in Indonesia|Indonesia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Israel|Israel]] • [[The Phantom publications in Kenya|Kenya]] • [[The Phantom publications in Lebanon|Lebanon]] • [[The Phantom publications in New Zealand|New Zealand]] • [[The Phantom publications in Papua New Guinea|Papua New Guinea]] • [[The Phantom publications in the Philippines|Philippines]] • [[The Phantom publications in Singapore|Singapore]] • [[The Phantom publications in Thailand|Thailand]] • [[The Phantom publications in Tunisia|Tunisia]]
|-<noinclude>[[Category:Navigation templates]]</noinclude>
|}
::: What's decided about this? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:14, 25 June 2011 (CEST)

::::Nothing has been decided, the discussion just ended. On the computer that I am currently using, I don't see any difference at all in size, I therefore prefer to the second option if we decide to add dependencies. I am favoring to add dependencies only if they have published something independently (that is, it was only published there and not in the country to which the belong. --[[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:35, 16 July 2011 (CEST)

:During the fifties the daily Phantom strips were published in a newspapers Barbados, an island country in the Lesser Antilles then a member of the Canadian Confederation and now independent, namely "The Sunday Advocate" (Editor : Advocate Co. at Bridgetown Barbados, Bridgetown, Barbados). So it's need to create a country template. Despite the fact that the title evokes a weekly basis it was published every day. [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 16:55, 8 February 2012 (CET)
::I've added one way of showing it (including an example if Barbados should start to publish now as an independent country). Should I add it to the template? [[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 19:03, 8 February 2012 (CET)
:::I think that shouldn't be Canada in link at all, only mentioned in article. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 19:16, 8 February 2012 (CET)
::::So both (in the event that Barbados now starts publishing the Phantom) links should point to the same article? [[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 19:44, 8 February 2012 (CET)
:::::I think that should be link The Phantom publications in Barbados only, without Canada. Inside article in comment field we could add info about Canada. This is not same case as with former Yugoslavian republics. For example, Egypt was part of Kingdom of Egypt and Sudan and then United Arab Federation, but we have only one article for Egypt. Of course, we can use several flags and different country name in lists. Do you agree? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 20:05, 8 February 2012 (CET)

== Update January 2011 ==
To all: we tried to do an update of the MediaWiki software this weekend but ran into some trouble. We always have a backup of the wiki database stored, so we could restore the Wiki today. However, the last few updates were missing from the back up. This means that the historical 10,000th article is gone with other articles that need to be rewritten. Sorry for that, and a big thanks to all contributors who helped us actually reach 10,000 articles and hopefully will help us do it again (and this time for good!) /[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 14:21, 17 January 2011 (UTC) and Brian (administrator)

:I have to say I need more details. Are these articles now permanently lost? And if so, is it possible to have a list of which articles are concerned, that in case some of them might be however re-written or at least might received a new version? I am surprised that nobody has responded to this information… but maybe I don’t quite understand what the situation is, and that because of my only basic English? Thanks in advance for your reply [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 16:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::The only articles and changes that were lost were those who were created on January 14th. There is no list for the articles that could not be restored from the backup, however, I believe that most articles already have been written again by those who had created them.[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 16:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

== Edited stories ==
In Italia and Brazil some newspaper stories were edited and completely redrawn with new panels added by their local artists. In Italia Nebrini stories (some of them, I am not sure for all) were later redrawn with new panels by Fratelli Spada artists. One or two newspaper stories were remade in L'Avventuroso. However, do we need create separate list for these remake stories? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:King Comics redrew some stories and those stories have their own articles. Example: [[Sunday story]] "[[Treasure of the Skull Cave]]" and [[King Comics story]] "[[The Treasure of the Skull Cave]]". Also, Team Fantomen has made remakes of old stories drawn by Moore and McCoy, they also have their separate articles. If what you are describing is of the magnitude of any of what I have described, then I believe that they should be given their own articles without hesitation, if this is a milder case, then perhaps further discussion is necessary. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 17:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hispano Americana ==
I've started add Spanish Hispano Americana issues http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Category:El_Hombre_Enmascarado_%28Hispano_Americana%29_issues

But I am not sure how we will add links for their other editions http://www.tebeosfera.com/buscador/el%20hombre%20enmascarado/

Maybe year publishing could be difference in links? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

== Creating a template for art that does not fit anywhere ==
There are some art that is neither a panel, nor is it a cover, at least not used as a cover at the image in question. Since it is some form of art, someone should be credited as people are credited in the panel and cover templates. A couple of examples: [[Image:Fantomen60logo.jpg|250px]],[[Image:Fantomen Samlarmapp2.jpg|200px]], [[Image:Falk lindahl.jpg|200px]], [[Image:Patrolshirt.jpg|200px]]. 
These images does NOT portray panels nor covers. I therefore propose that a new template should be created for such items. I might add that I at some of the images which might meet my criteria already have used one of the existing template, that is then needed to be corrected if you agree. Is there anyone against or for my proposal? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 19:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:I too think that there should be a category for 'odd' images like the ones you presented, e.g. 'Miscellaneous art' or 'Other art'. Should we do a distinction between 'paper printed' (scanned) objects like your first three examples and 'non paper printed' (photographed) ones like your last example? --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 11:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::Firstly, I have to point out that what I am asking for here is a TEMPLATE, not a category; there exists already categories in which these images fits: "Covers and illustrations" categories are very broad. If an exess of such images suddenly comes, there might be a need, but I don't really think that it ever will.
::Secondly, I think that one template for all other art is sufficient. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:59, 26 January 2011 (CET)

:::There has not been any further discussion here, but I have not met any negative response. If no negative response comes within the next week, I will create a new template, [[Template:MiscArt]], for these images. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:24, 17 February 2011 (CET)

OK, no reply, I take the silence as a yes and will start with the template. [[Special:Contributions/213.115.244.54|213.115.244.54]] 13:12, 28 February 2011 (CET)
:I have now created a template and started to apply it, firstly at the examples given. I have inserted the template below. It might need some slight changes, but overall, i think it is good. Feel free to make changes if you think it is necessary. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:30, 28 February 2011 (CET)
[[Template:MiscArt]], something went wrong when I put it up, follow the link instead. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:32, 28 February 2011 (CET)

== New Special page ==
Have you ever wondered how many contributions your friends have made? 
Who have made the most, the last seven days or the last thirty? 
Now you have an answer to these questions on the new special page located under "Wiki data and tools" the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution scores]] 
[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]])]] 15:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:THat's a great tool, thanks for adding it, though I and many of the older editors have used several accounts while editing, so totally, we have done more than what is shown. I, for instance, have calculated that I have made another 10 085 edits at other accounts before the login problem was solved. I see no way that a contributor could get that credit added to the account that they are using now, however, I also note that it is only logged-in users that are shown any result. I previously to the time to sum up all the edits that I made with different accounts, putting the result at my personal page, and could therefore see that I have used several IP-addresses, but that I with five of them totally have done more than 7000 edits; some of those accounts would be at a top 10 all revisions list.
:I am not greedy for more credit, but I think it would be interesting to see the IP-addresses of those that edited without being logged-in, if it is possible. Because of the log-in problems that was experienced for some time, that might be good. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:18, 26 January 2011 (CET)
 
::I am well aware of this problem, this is one of the reasons I wanted to do the update to MediaWiki 1.16.1 
::With this version I can add an extension which enables me to merge users. 
::I will do some testing and then report my results. After that we can discuss merging obsolete users with current. 
::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 09:08, 27 January 2011 (CET)
 
:::I have now tested to merge a couple of test users I made. 
:::Sadly the extension "merge user" can not achieve what I have hoped. It seems it is more a novel way to delete spammers then merge actual contributors with multiple usernames. 
:::How important is this? I can try to find a solution to "contributions made with several user names" if this is the wish of least a couple of contributors. 
:::If it´s not really important to the majority I will find a better use of my time :-). 
:::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:14, 2 february 2011 (CET)
 
:::: I have just learned that you can add the following to your user page if you so desire: 
::::Number of unique pages I have edited: <nowiki>{{#cscore:UserName|pages}}</nowiki> 
::::Substitute UserName with your username. You can make multiple lines if you have used more than one username 
::::For me it will look like this, Number of unique pages I have edited: {{#cscore:Administrator|pages}}
::::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:16, 17 february 2011 (CET)

::Thanks, I will try this at once and see if I could add the different accounts edit into one. I will come back as soon as I have tried. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 16:55, 17 February 2011 (CET)

:::Apparently, It does not work do to so with IP-addresses, which means that I have no easy way of finding that out (The only way is to go to the contributions pages and go through in some cases more than 1,500 edits to see how many unique pages I edited, something I won't do.). I have, however some trouble in understanding exactly how the score is calculated.
:::The information "Scores are calculated as follows:
***One (1) point for each unique page edited
***Square root of (total edits made) - (total unique pages) * 2"
:::is hard to understand. I would prefer a formula showing how to use edits (e) and page edits (p). The only thing I really understand of the formula is that the score (s) is a number between p and e. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 17:24, 17 February 2011 (CET)

:I'll add a genuine example: score: s=12, page edited: p=6, total edits: e=16. square root of 16 is 4, 4-6*2=4-12=-8. (16-6*2)=4, square root of 4 is 2. (16-6)*2=10*2=20, square root is between 4 and 5. I have no idea of how they got the score to 12. Please, what is the formula? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 17:41, 17 February 2011 (CET)
::You get one point for each unique edited page PLUS the sum of that complicated calculation. In your example that would be 6 +((square root of (16-6))*2) = 6 + ((square root of 10) *2) = 6 + (3.16227766*2) = 6 + 6.32455532 = approx. 12 [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:07, 17 February 2011 (CET)

:::Thanks! I think then that the second point should be written (Square root of (total edits made) - (total unique pages)) * 2 in order to make it more clear. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:19, 17 February 2011 (CET)

Since it seems impossible to merge accounts, I have below started upon a Contributions table that will add those together manually and creating a minimum score and unique pages. It will have to be gradually updated though. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 15:47, 2 March 2011 (CET)
:Now all figures are correct, then I make updates. What do you think, does it need an own page? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 15:51, 2 March 2011 (CET)
::I have made the identifications based on name similarities below, if two user names does not represent the same user, please correct. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:48, 2 March 2011 (CET)
{| {{table}}
!Ordinary Score !!unique pages !!total edits !!Contributor !!Also used !!minimum unique !!added edits !!Minimum score
|-
|7538 || 7413 || 11302 || [[User:Karl MAN]] ||[[User:Karl MAN 6]] [[User:Karl MAN 5]] [[User:Karl MAN 7]] [[User:Karl MAN O]] [[User:Karl MAN 4]] [[User:Karl MAN 3]] [[User:Karl MAN Obadja]] [[User:Karl MAN 2]] ||7413 ||2426 + 11302 =13728 ||(Square root of (13728 - 7413))*2+7413= 7572
|-
|6295 || 6196 || 8635 || [[User:MiGi]] || [[User:MiGi I]] ||6196|| 169 + 8635 =8804 ||(Square root of (8804 - 6196))*2+6196= 6298
|-
|6183 || 6047 || 10690 || [[User:Delboj4]] || [[User:Delboj]] [[User:Delboj3]] [[User:Delboj2]] ||6047 || 2219 + 10690 =12909 ||(Square root of (12909 - 6047))*2+6047= 6213
|-
|4564 || 4449 || 7772 || [[User:Member 7]] ||[[User:Andreas]] ||4449 ||3215 + 7772 =10987 ||(Square root of (10987 - 4449))*2+4449= 4611
|-
|4319 || 4296 || 4423 || [[User:Administrator]] ||[[User:Founder 1]] ||4296 ||187 + 4423 =4610 ||(Square root of (4610 - 4296))*2+4296= 4331
|-
|2336 || 2275 || 3215 || [[User:Andreas]] ||[[User:Member 7]] ||4449 ||7772 + 3215 =10987 ||(Square root of (10987 - 4449))*2+4449= 4611
|-
|2132 || 2029 || 4670 || [[User:Member 37]] ||
|-
|1066 || 1039 || 1228 || [[User:Alain03]] ||[[User:Alain05]] [[User:Alain]] [[User:Alain06]] [[User:Alain02]] [[User:Alain07]] [[User:Alain04]] [[User:Alain01]] ||1039 ||321 + 1228 =1549 ||(Square root of (1549 - 1039))*2+1039= 1084
|-
|1000 || 966 || 1252 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander]] ||[[User:Dark Lord Xander5]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander2]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander6]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander7]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander3]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander4]] ||966 ||2177 + 1252 =3429 ||(Square root of (3429 - 966))*2+966= 1065

|-
|770 || 732 || 1096 || [[User:Delboj2]] ||
|-
|644 || 612 || 873 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander4]] ||
|-
|609 || 565 || 1047 || [[User:Karl MAN 2]] ||
|-
|580 || 540 || 941 || [[User:Member 18]] ||
|-
|567 || 543 || 689 || [[User:Knallhatten]] ||
|-
|543 || 516 || 702 || [[User:Lothar]] ||
|-
|507 || 476 || 722 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander3]] ||
|-
|439 || 411 || 610 || [[User:Karl MAN Obadja]] ||
|-
|412 || 391 || 504 || [[User:Delboj3]] ||
|-
|412 || 381 || 624 || [[User:Karl MAN 3]] ||
|-
|356 || 321 || 619 || [[User:Delboj]] ||
|-
|257 || 239 || 323 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander7]] ||
|-
|208 || 196 || 230 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander6]] ||
|-
|165 || 154 || 187 || [[User:Founder 1]] ||
|-
|161 || 153 || 169 || [[User:MiGi I]] ||
|-
|142 || 139 || 141 || [[User:Alain01]] ||
|-
|141 || 128 || 171 || [[User:Minatte1]] ||
|-
|105 || 90 || 147 || [[User:ERIK S]] ||
|-
|94 || 85 || 104 || [[User:Alain04]] ||
|-
|73 || 60 || 100 || [[User:Daniel Leahy]] ||
|-
|67 || 54 || 99 || [[User:Kaya Ö]] ||
|-
|55 || 52 || 54 || [[User:Klaus]] ||
|-
|50 || 42 || 60 || [[User:Alain07]] ||
|-
|50 || 23 || 201 || [[User:Kit n kat]] ||
|-
|37 || 28 || 49 || [[User:Dougy]] ||
|-
|35 || 29 || 39 || [[User:Karl MAN 4]] ||
|-
|32 || 24 || 42 || [[User:Karl MAN O]] ||
|-
|31 || 20 || 48 || [[User:ClayCamel]] ||
|-
|26 || 21 || 28 || [[User:Karl MAN 7]] ||
|-
|25 || 11 || 59 || [[User:Gtar]] ||
|-
|23 || 18 || 24 || [[User:Karl MAN 5]] ||
|-
|22 || 15 || 29 || [[User:Geaghs]] ||
|-
|21 || 15 || 25 || [[User:Bjungan]] ||
|-
|18 || 16 || 17 || [[User:JD]] ||
|-
|18 || 12 || 20 || [[User:David Black]] ||
|-
|16 || 14 || 15 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander2]] ||
|-
|14 || 10 || 14 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander5]] ||
|-
|14 || 11 || 13 || [[User:Bera-na-liva-17]] ||
|-
|13 || 13 || 13 || [[User:Member 84]] ||
|-
|12 || 12 || 12 || [[User:Vogler]] ||
|-
|12 || 12 || 12 || [[User:Karl MAN 6]] ||
|-
|12 || 7 || 13 || [[User:Klovis]] ||
|-
|11 || 4 || 18 || [[User:Morristown]] ||
|-
|10 || 7 || 10 || [[User:PAJ]] ||
|-
|9 || 7 || 8 || [[User:Kit*walker]] ||
|-
|8 || 6 || 7 || [[User:Peas and corn]] ||
|-
|8 || 8 || 8 || [[User:Jp2designs]] ||
|-
|8 || 3 || 9 || [[User:The Clay Camel]] ||
|-
|7 || 2 || 9 || [[User:Devil882]] ||
|-
|7 || 7 || 7 || [[User:Alain02]] ||
|-
|7 || 4 || 6 || [[User:Prabhat]] ||
|-
|6 || 4 || 5 || [[User:Alain06]] ||
|-
|6 || 4 || 5 || [[User:JoeMD]] ||
|-
|5 || 3 || 4|| [[User:Ivan]] ||
|-
|5 || 2 || 4 || [[User:Bera-na-liva]] ||
|-
|4 || 4 || 4 || [[User:Comic guy]] ||
|-
|3 || 1 || 2 || [[User:Robgoldy]] ||
|-
|3 || 3 || 3 || [[User:Alain]] ||
|-
|2 || 2 || 2 || [[User:Sal]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Trail member klaus]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Capeto]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Tove test]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Kitwalker]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Alain05]] ||
|-
|}

:::After some pondering, I think that perhaps, it is to much to manage. I will make a list with the most important contributors at my page, but I see no need to do anything with those who joined after the log in problem was solved. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:23, 11 March 2011 (CET)

== Update to MediaWiki 1.16.1 ==
Yesterday the update to the newest version of MediaWiki was done, this time without any problems. 
With the update the new default skin of PhantomWiki is Vector, but with some small modifications to make it standout and be - in my opinion- more visual appealing and to give at a PhantomWiki touch. 
There are two reasons to change the default to Vector, one is that it is the official skin of MediaWiki and Wikipedia, any changes and improvements will be done to this skin. 
By using MediaWikis default skin I can implement these changes and improvements much easier than trying to copy them to another skin. 
The second is by using Vector as default any visitor and user familiar with Wikipedia will feel right at home. 
For these reasons I strongly encourage all users who now uses other skins to change there default skin to Vector. 
[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 09:33, 27 January 2011 (CET)
:: I have taken the liberty to delete all the old unused skins so not to encourage their use by someone new. The only skin remaining is the old default "bookjive" and the current default "vector". 
::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:36, 31 January 2011 (CET)

== Dynamic/different template needed ==
When browsing the wiki something struck me as, well not optimal. If a person is alive and well the page states "Death: N/A"
That really gives the wrong impression. 
I understand that the problem occurs because of the template. An elegant solution would be a dynamic template that doesn't show the row in question if it is not used. 
Does anybody know if this can be done? 
[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:45, 31 January 2011 (CET)
:I have taken a look at [[Template:Issuebox]], where the lowest row disappears if it is left empty. After some thinking, I have the suspicion that it is caused by the fact that there is no extra stuff added there automatically like at the other places. Due to that, i conclude that it probably cannot be made to disappear. There might, however, be another solution in writing "not yet" instead of N/A, I personally don't really know what N/A stays for, but I get the intended meaning. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:19, 11 March 2011 (CET)
::N/A means "Not Avaliable" or "Not Applicable". It ''is'' possible to create dynamic templates, I just don't know how. For example, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_film Infobox film] template on Wikipedia only shows fields if they have any information in them - otherwise that field "disappears". We need something like that here too. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 18:36, 11 March 2011 (CET)

== Donations ==
I have included a donate button in the left sidebar for those who want to contribute money for the cost of the wiki. 
[http://www.schapter.org The Scandinavian Chapter] will pay all costs involved with PhantomWiki but any and all help with this is welcome. 
[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:33, 17 February 2011 (CET)

== Flag of Spain ==
In all articles should be corrected Spanish flags based on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain] [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:18, 18 February 2011 (CET)
:[[Image:Mini_secondspanishrep.gif|thumb|Second spanish republic]]
:[[Image:Mini_spainunderfranco (first).gif|thumb|left|Spain under Franco (first)]]
:After reading the important part of the article, I can sum it up as: 1931-1939(40) Second Spanish Republic, In 1940 the next flag was introduced, Spain under Franco (first), 1940-1945, then came Spain under Franco, 1945-1977, and then, January 21, 1977-1981, it was a flag which I don't think is uploaded here, then 1981-present, we have Spain. Hopefully, I have understood it correctly, otherwise, I will make corrections. because I agree with Delboj4. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:04, 18 February 2011 (CET)
[[Image:Mini_spainunderfranco.gif|thumb|Spain under Franco]]
[[Image:Mini_spain.gif|thumb|left|Spain (Kingdom of Spain)]]
::However, it will be a big job change all flags. Something similiar there was with Egyptian flags. In fact, all issues categorized as Egyptian were printed in Egypt, but through history country has different names and flags, sometimes also territory (in "federation" with other countries). [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:17, 18 February 2011 (CET)
:::I think it would be good if we decided for which exact periods the different flags should be used and then also upload the missing one. Could we come to an agreement? And also, when an issue was published near a shift, but we don't know the date, what shall we do then? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 18:52, 23 February 2011 (CET)
 
 
 
In my opinion the flags should not be changed as the flags serve only as a small illustration of where a comic has been published. Not the history of Spain. For the former purpose the flag should be easily recognizable, the version most can recognize is probably the latest.
[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]])]] 14:30, 7 March 2011 (CET)

: If we changed flags for other countries, for example Yugoslavia, I think that we should change all flags. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:38, 7 March 2011 (CET)

== Cite ==
Cite is a extension that adds two parser hooks to MediaWiki, <nowiki><ref> and <references/>; </nowiki> these operate together to add citations to pages. 
I don't know if there is a big use for it but as other wikis uses I thought I better install it. 

Usage example: 
<nowiki>
According to scientists, the Sun is pretty big.<ref>'''E. Miller, ''The Sun'', (New York: Academic Press, 2005), 23-5.</ref></nowiki> 
<nowiki>
The Moon, however, is not so big.<ref>'''R. Smith, "Size of the Moon", ''Scientific American'', 46 (April 1978): 44-6.</ref></nowiki> 
 
<nowiki>
== Notes == 

<references/>
</nowiki>
 
[[Special:Contributions/194.18.255.18|— [[User:Administrator]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]])]] 08:57, 22 February 2011 (CET)

== Search tool difficulties ==
Not very easy to find the article concerning the 1961 tv pilot when using the Wiki search engine. The article is entitled "The Phantom (1961 TV pilot)" and in fact I only found it through Google with the following search demand: “Phantom Tv Pilot 1961”. There, the Schapter Wiki article was placed as the second result. Coming back to the Wiki, and strangely enough, when typing “TV” not any title matches / same failure with “1961 TV” or with “TV 1961” / even not better result with “PHANTOM TV 1961”… And it is finally when just typing «1961 » (something however less precise than the previous entries), that the mention "The Phantom (1961 TV pilot)" appears as the first “Page title matches” entry. Rather unusual but I suppose it is because the words (1961 TV pilot) are either written between brackets or the use of parentheses. Maybe a presentation like "The Phantom / 1961 TV pilot" (separating solidus) would be a easier help for finding the page? [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 14:38, 3 March 2011 (CET)

== Part One or 1? ==
There are differences in some articles: story name is Part One or Part 1 and Part Two or Part 2. It must be same in all articles. Similiar problem with a few other stories. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:42, 27 February 2011 (CET)
:I agree that we must be able to decide a standard, also if there should be capital letters or not, but why did you start the discussion '''''here'''''? In my opinion, it belongs to [[PhantomWiki:Bandar Village]] or at [[PhantomWiki talk:Style Guide]]. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 10:36, 28 February 2011 (CET)
::I had thought that discussion about some story should be separate. Ok, than we can move this to Bandar Village. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:05, 28 February 2011 (CET)

== The Set Up ==
In "Best story" template exists link for story "The Set Up", but what contest should be putted in that link? That story was parted in two, there are links for "[[The Set Up, Part 1]]" and "[[The Set Up, Part 2]]"? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:07, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:Both parts were considered as one story for this vote, like "Curse of the Granite God" in [[Best story 1992 (Norway)]]. So I guess both parts should be put in the template. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 12:56, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:: Than it would be the best if you can edit template. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:42, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:::Done. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 14:30, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:::: OK, thanks. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:45, 5 March 2011 (CET)

== Year or Christmas Albums? ==
Why Mustanaamio and Fantomet Albums have in the links name Year instead Christmas? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:21, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:Most of the Fantomet albums has the word 'Årsalbum' (Year album) on the cover, with (I think) 3 exceptions that has the word 'Julen' (Christmas), along with the year, on the cover. Some of the older swedish ones have 'Julen' on the cover, but nowadays it's mostly only the year itself. But they have always been referred to as 'Julalbum' (Christmas album) for the last 60 years or so. The finnish ones seems to mostly have only the year on the cover. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 00:48, 5 March 2011 (CET)
::OK, thanks for info. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 09:12, 5 March 2011 (CET)

== 1st of Team Fantomen stories ==
First publications of newer Team Fantomen stories usually was in Fantomet issues, sometimes in Frew. I think that all informations should be changed. I am not sure are all informations about Fantomet publication dates completely correct, but they were published before Fantomen issues. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:21, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:We have discussed that somewhere else, but I can't find that now. It is true that some TF stories sometimes had the first release date in Norway or Australia. However, they were still produced for ''[[Fantomen]]'' in Sweden, which is why we kept the Swedish issue as 1st publication. I think that if we look into the matter, ''[[Mustanaamio]]'' had the first release dates for many years too. So, yes we can change the 1st publication to the issue with the earliest official release date, but it should still be noted that the story was created for ''Fantomen'' and the others have translated their version from the original ''Fantomen'' version. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 12:56, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:: Than I don't know. Where put info about that? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:44, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:::[[Talk:The_Phantom_Crusader,_Part_3|Here]] is the old discussion, though it isn't much of a discussion. We just acknowledged that some TF stories appear first in other countries, despite the fact that they are produced for ''Fantomen'' in Sweden.[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 16:12, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:I like the way we are doing it now; you always know that you are to look for the first Swedish publication of a Team Fantomen story. Of course, I have to obey to what is decided, however, whatever we finally decide with, I think that we should continue with the way that we have done so far, to create as little confusion as possible, when we finally arrive at a decision and start making the according edits. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 15:46, 7 March 2011 (CET)
::Yes, maybe that was good, but than must be changed "1st" to something other. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 15:50, 7 March 2011 (CET)
:::What about "original publication"? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 16:27, 7 March 2011 (CET)
::::Will we decide what do in this case? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:44, 18 March 2011 (CET)
:::::My opinion is that we keep it as it is, possibly change the template, and that is what I vote for. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 18:08, 23 March 2011 (CET)

== Image on daily strip articles ==

What if for each daily story we uploaded the very first strip as an image for the Newspaper box (like I just did for The Slave Market of Mucar) instead of an aleatory panel? Or is it too small?
:I think it looks good, as long as we don't get in trouble using a strip with too high resolution. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 18:13, 6 March 2011 (CET)

I like it also but I think its too small. Maybe the Newspaper box could be changed or the whole article could be rearranged to accommodate a larger image. I like the way the IpComics site does that for each story you have and image of the first strip or page. It’s great for cross-referencing. When I want to find the origins of a story I’m reading I usually go to the IpComics site and by glancing at the first strip I usually solve my doubts. I find this wrong. I should be coming here! After all this is supposed to be the ultimate Phantom reference guide.
About the copyright thing maybe we should put a copyright watermark over each image. But remember, we’ve been uploadind cover images for ages and these are also copryrighted material.

:The copyright information could be kept at the text that accompanies the file, I don't want nice images to be ruined by copyright watermarks!!! I would prefer if a panel that is relatively representative of the story is used, merely using the first panel may then in at least some cases be a bad idea. In some stories, there are also interesting panels that could be used to illustrate other articles, these might also work good in the story article. I am here remembering an advise from Wikipedia (or was it Seriewikin?) to upload images that could be used in several articles if possible. (P.S. You need to sign your edits in the Bandar Village so that we know who wrote them. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:41, 6 March 2011 (CET)

::I think that would be better continue upload one panel from story, this doesn't look good, as far as I think. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:54, 6 March 2011 (CET)

== Fantom-hefte prose stories ==
Some of Fantom-hefte issues included some short prose stories. I think that we should create new list for them, but where exactly? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:11, 7 March 2011 (CET)

== Main page ==
Maybe the Main Page should have some template boxes at the bottom for Countries, Characters, People, etc... like the MandrakeWiki. It would make it much easier to go to the main articles instead of having to navigate thru all sorts of links to get to an article like we do at the moment. [[User:Lothar|Lothar]]
:Good idea - countries template is added. We don't have templates for those other things, and I don't know if they can be done without becoming too huge? [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 00:47, 9 March 2011 (CET)
Templates can be collapsible like in this Beatles article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatles. So I don't think size would be a problem. [[User:Lothar|Lothar]]
::True, but we have not been able to create collapsible templates here on PhantomWiki. It could be useful, so I would love to see someone create a collapsible template! [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 18:33, 11 March 2011 (CET)

== Kızılmaske ==
I am not sure, but I think that we will must rename these articles http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Category:K%C4%B1z%C4%B1lmaske_issues
I have made a mistake when once write "serie" instead "series". But in that time I didn't know there were three series. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 23:33, 10 March 2011 (CET)
:I am fine with that, 126 moves to make, plus perhaps a couple of redirects for each that needs to be fixed. I am, however, uncertain what is grammatically correct; isn't it one serie, several series? or what is said in these circumstances? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 12:40, 11 March 2011 (CET)
::Than I don't know. Someone who is sure about that what is correct should decide. However, we will must create tables for Issue overview. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:44, 11 March 2011 (CET)
:::This should be correct [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series], Series is in singular and plural. I think that we will also must reupload cover with new name and maybe change 1st to First and etc. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:24, 15 April 2011 (CEST)

== Fantomets Krønikebok ==
*On some web sites Fantomets Krønikebok and Det tjueførste Fantomet issues were categorized as Krønikebok, but on other sites are as separate series. What we should make in this case? I had change some links to Krønikebok, but maybe that's wrong? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:44, 18 March 2011 (CET)

== The use of (internal) links ==
* There seems to be two schools about how to use links within the text on a page; Use a link only the first time a name (for example) is mentioned or Use a link every time that name is mentioned. I belong to the second. Here's an example on why: Say you've found the site when searching for [[The Super-Jet Gang]] from the outside and you're from Germany, so you scroll down to the german reprints. Then you see the text ''(+Team Fantomen prologue by Anders Thorell)'' appended to the title, and wondering what is ''Team Fantomen''? To find that out you must know that you should scroll upp one page to the finnish(!) section and there click on the link (or do a page search or a site search)! Why not have a link on the 'german row'? Okey, now you've found the link to [[Team Fantomen]] and checks out the latest stories, say story #856, ''The Legend of Rahotep, Part 1'', and you notice that the artists name is Leppänen. Wonder what else work he's done? Now you have to scroll up pages after pages till you reach #165, and then you can click on the link (or do another search)! Maybe this was an extreme example, but why don't we have links 'everywhere'? Isn't the whole point of markup languages that you're only a click away from more interesting stuff? If we follow the first school we should remove one link if the artist of a story also did the cover, shouldn't we? ;-) Anyhow, I think we should be consistent and I vote for number 2. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 16:15, 20 March 2011 (CET)
::I come from the school of "option 1", because I began doing wiki edits on "regular" Wikipedia where the rule is to only link to an article once, or only once per section if it is a long article. But I do see your point, and unlike regular Wikipedia our articles will not have the possibility of being filled with links for every word in an article, because of the subject matter our articles are limited to. So, my gut reaction is "option 1" but I can be convinced that option 2 is the best if others think so... [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 18:13, 20 March 2011 (CET)
::I think that's option 1 better, but however you want. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 19:29, 20 March 2011 (CET)
:::The most extreme example here mentioned is the list of [[Team Fantomen stories]] and when looking at it that way I have to tend to agree with option 2. I have previously done option 1, because that how it is done at the regular wikipedia. I am, however, bent on doing option 2, or at least a version of option 2. Previously, had a name been linked more than once in an article, it had usually been "corrected". I propose that we make it a policy to NOT make these "corrections" and also in indexes, particularly an index like the one in [[Team Fantomen stories]], make the creators name be linked always. I think it actually will become easier further on if every name could be linked. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 18:37, 23 March 2011 (CET)
::::I have made changes to the [[Team Fantomen stories]] page, all in one go so it's easy to undo if we want to, so we can get a feeling for it before making the final decision. All in all, I think that Karl MAN's suggestion is a good middleway. P.S. Maybe we should split the page into decades or something. It's getting huge! --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 20:24, 23 March 2011 (CET)
:::::It looks really strange now. I think that's not good solution. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:03, 24 March 2011 (CET)
::::::I have no real problem with it, however, one of the reasons that it work practically better this way is that this index has an excess of redlinks, had every story had its own article, you could have gone to that link and gotten the info. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:11, 24 March 2011 (CET)
:::::::What's decided about this? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:52, 10 April 2011 (CEST)

== Stickers & Albums ==
Does anyone have any idea what articles about Sticker Albums should include? We can add articles about these two albums [http://picasaweb.google.com/kitwalker19/StickersAlbums#] [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:53, 22 March 2011 (CET)

== The Vault of Missing Men ==
About the link "The Vault of Missing Men" from [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Skull_Cave], contest should be moved to link for story and replaced with new. All links in articles for story with same name changed. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:59, 24 March 2011 (CET)
:Done. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 19:56, 25 March 2011 (CET)
::Ok, but here [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Vault_of_Missing_Men&action=edit] should be write something new about that, instead redirect link. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 20:01, 25 March 2011 (CET)
:::Alright, now I have begun on [[The Vault of Missing Men]]. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:30, 25 March 2011 (CET)

== The 28th Phantom ==
[[Jedda Walker]] is destined to become [[the 28th Phantom]] and at one point she thinks her father is dead and actually wears the dress. Should not this be enough to make her relevant for the nonexisting 28th Phantom article? Merely explaining that she has acted as the 28th Phantom? She is not like [[Julie]], who never was considered to be the next Phantom, but merely took the chance when it came, and only made a few appearances as the Phantom. No one expected her to be the Phantom permanently, except for a short period when her brother was presumed dead without heir. Jedda on the other hand, has been expected to eventually become the Phantom from the start (Even though I don't like it as the Phantom, in my opinion, ought to be a man so that the natives could continue to believe that it is the same person). [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:13, 25 March 2011 (CET)
:Interesting question, I have seen too little of DotE to help make a decision though. But if she took on the role of Phantom as you have mentioned in her article, that is a very strong argument to add her to the list of Phantoms. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:42, 26 March 2011 (CET)
::My own knowledge of this is hearsay on the Internet's different forums and a youtube tribute to Jedda in which she is seen finding her fathers belt floating in a river and then puts on the Phantom suit and fights with some criminals. The youtube-clip also show things from other episodes, it could be viewed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX1rqe5GrlY here]. I am myself unsure of how to do with this; we could add her like Julie to the template or we could created a new article with [[the 28th Phantom]] and then explain that in DotE, Jedda temporarily became that person and is destined do become him when her father dies. There are some futuristic Phantoms that have been portrayed by different creators and are thus different characters, but nevertheless still have the same article. I don't know if we should have one article about the 28th Phantom and one about Jedda; it's a complicated matter. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:40, 7 April 2011 (CEST)

== Kukailomoko ==
What to do with titles of story "Kukailomoko"? Frew titles are different than titles in list http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Team_Fantomen_stories and second and third parts are published under one title in Frew. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:51, 26 March 2011 (CET)
:It seems as if someone has merely translated the Swedish titles to English, when giving them English names, however, considering that part 2 and 3 was published as one, a discussion about what to do in such cases might be in order. (Had we had three English titles, one for each story, I would had have no problem.) [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:31, 26 March 2011 (CET)
::Yes, the Team Fantomen story list that I made (originally for [http://www.deepwoods.org Deepwoods]) tries to translate the Swedish titles as directly as possible. Frew titles often deviate very much from the original titles. This is a complicated case, but what is clear is that the three parts should each be given their own title (we always follow the ''original'' story separations when we create the article, and not later publishers' combining/separation of stories). In this case, we have a Frew title for part 1 and part 2. We could use the direct translation of the Swedish title for the third part. BTW, I don't have the Frew issue in question, so I don't know if part 2 & 3 were actually edited together (i.e. removed title page). Is that the case? If not, was the same title repeated on the title page of part 3? [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:40, 26 March 2011 (CET)
:::Yes, we must check that. I will try ask someone who could knows that. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 23:01, 26 March 2011 (CET)
::::I've changed informations, there were two titles in Frew 1056. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:28, 28 March 2011 (CEST)

== The Rope People (story) ==
In article about The 19th Phantom [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_19th_Phantom] I've found link for The Rope People (story). Do we need move contest from article [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Rope_People] to that link and put new conest? Same thing here [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_tribes_of_Bangalla] for The Golden People, The Children of the Forest, and The Stone Carving People. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:07, 29 March 2011 (CEST)

== The False Commendant ==
Is it correct translated title "The False Commendant" with "e" instead "a" (The False Commandant)? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:13, 29 March 2011 (CEST)

== Spesialalbum ==
About Fantomet Spesialalbum, some links are wiht Fantomet in name, but other without. What should be written in links at all in this case? In some other indexes this series is called Fantomet Spesialalbum. Fantomet Spesialalbum is name printed on covers. One-shots issues are named without Fantomet in name. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:10, 31 March 2011 (CEST)

== Julen 1997 ==
In list [[The Phantom publications in Norway]] album from 1997 is named as Julen 1997. But maybe this one could be named as Fantomet Christmas Album 1997? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:12, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
:I agree, as it is with the swedish counterpart. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 16:44, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
::OK, but will that then stay in one-shots list? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:50, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
:::It does not seem to have been any more Christmas albums after that, and the Year Album ended in 1988, so it could be described as a One-shot, unless we want to describe it as being the last of the Year Albums. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:31, 1 April 2011 (CEST)
::::Can you change those links? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:27, 10 April 2011 (CEST)
:::::Change what links into what links? Has anything been decided? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:06, 12 April 2011 (CEST)
::::::I am not sure. I've posted a few questions, but almost nothing was decided. Maybe we could add new link for Fantomet Christmas Albums in [[The Phantom publications in Norway]]. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:40, 12 April 2011 (CEST)

== Newspapers ==
Do we need new category for newspapers? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:04, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
:I'd say yes; there is a difference. It could be a subcategory to [[:Category:Publications]]. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:34, 1 April 2011 (CEST)
::Can you crate that subcategory? And is it enough only one category, or separate for each country? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 18:13, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
:::I have created [[:Category:Newspapers]] with the first subcategory [[:Category:American newspapers]] [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:26, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
::::OK, but why articles are in [[:Category:Newspapers]], [[:Category:Publications]], and subcategory [[:Category:American newspapers]]? These articles could be only in [[:Category:American newspapers]]. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:58, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
:::::Yes, sorry, if that is how we usually do (subcategories only) then it should be that way for newspapers too. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 23:33, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
::::::OK, all newspapers are categorized now. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:48, 5 April 2011 (CEST)
:The “In newpapers” sections begin to be an important part of some “Phantom publications by country“ pages, as for instance in the USA page. But it is not easy to find information about the publishing dates. At the time being, there are several different presentations in the “Period’ column, such as : 1979-? / 19??-19?? / ?-? / ?-sixties-? / ? - 70's - ? / ?-50's to70's-? / and so on. To indicate years or decade(s) in the middle seems at least a good thing… but which standard presentation can we have when only few or any information is known about the released dates ? I really don’t know what are the best ways to mention periods, apart as far as the decade years is concerned : “50’s” looking better than “fifties” in a small column. Another thing, can we choose to write the name of the specific state of the newspaper in the “Comment” column ? At first sight, the newspaper would appear be more geographically localized…[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 17:18, 20 February 2012 (CET)
::I think that would be good solution, for example, 19??-? or something like that. That is temporary informations, it's not important how it will looks. About comment field, I think that's not needed more informations about American states, I think that we also should remove some informations from Canadian list. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:30, 20 February 2012 (CET)
:::And what about a general "Newspapers" page that could retaken all the individual "In newspapers" country sections (it would be a kind of worldwide view for that specific matter...).The original sections would be of course kept in their own "Country Publiactions" pages as usual.[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 11:48, 21 February 2012 (CET)
::::That would be complicated. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:42, 21 February 2012 (CET)
::::::I just thought it will be also a rather too long page...[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 13:25, 21 February 2012 (CET)
:::::::Yes, I agree, but it would be good if other members can give more suggestions. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:53, 21 February 2012 (CET)
::::::::I think that this should be discussed here.[[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 12:03, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

== Frew 1407 ==
Only in [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Phantom_1407_%28Frew%29] and [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Fantomets_Kr%C3%B8nike_4/2008] edited version of the story "Gullique - The Island of Doom" is linked as "Gullique and the Double Rainbow". Is it needed link? I don't think so. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:30, 1 April 2011 (CEST)
:There should only be one article for this story, edited and original version in one and the same.[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 17:03, 5 April 2011 (CEST)
::OK, I'll add article for this story. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:40, 5 April 2011 (CEST)

== Phantom, Environmental Avenger ==
In Norway is published one story on 6 pages, drawn by Knut Westad. Info from [http://latestphantomnews.blogspot.com] This story could be added in Additional works list in Team Fantomen stories (I am not sure completely), but it doesn't have official title. Which title we will use? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:59, 13 April 2011 (CEST)

== Fantasma RGE ==
About Fantasma(RGE)issues, I think that we don't need this category. Instead that, we could create table. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:09, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
:Or both? Table on the main page and a link to Fantasma(RGE)issues? Many of the other brazilian issues have issue overviews presenting the covers. I moved this one because it had so many issues. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 13:19, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
::Yes, it had too many issues, it should do something about that, but I think that we only need table. Fantasma was bimonthly publications to issue #46. We don't have similiar categories for other publications, so I think that category Fantasma(RGE)issues should be removed. Than we could show covers for each years, like some other issue. What do you think? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:34, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
:::Ah, like the scandinavian ones. I'll make an example later on. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 17:15, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
::::Yes, Andreas has made a few examples for Frew also. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:18, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
:::::Really great job, I think it's the best solution to shown these issues. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:20, 15 April 2011 (CEST)

== Presidential Palace ==
What should be linked in this case - Morristown Presidential Palace or only Presidential Palace? There are links for both versions. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:09, 18 April 2011 (CEST)

== Greek issues ==
I've got some help from Greek collector and added some new articles, but do we really need put source template in each issue article or only in main article? It's sometimes boring type captcha code. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:14, 19 April 2011 (CEST)

== Orjakaupunki ==
I think that Finnish album "Orjakaupunki" should be categorized as one-shot issue. In Swedish and Norway there was more issues in series "Samlade Serierariteter" and "Spesialalbum", but after in Finland there wasn't anything more in series, then "Orjakaupunki" is one-shot. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 20:27, 21 April 2011 (CEST)

== Aventures et Mystère ==
Which name we should use for this series?

*Aventures et Mystère (avant and après guerre)

*Aventures et Mystère (before and after war)

*Aventures et Mystère (First and Second series)

*Aventures et Mystère (1st and 2nd series)

*Aventures et Mystère (1938-40 and 1947-1949)

or...? Aventures et Mystère (avant and après guerre) is name usually used in French index, but I will use (1938-40 and 1947-1949). [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 15:46, 29 April 2011 (CEST)
== Flag suggestion ==
I added flags to [[Fantomen 1/1985 poster]] to illustrate the diversity of countries that (some) covers have been published in. The flags are linked to the respective country's article. Do you think it looks good and provides useful information? We have done a huge amount of cover articles already, so adding flags to all old articles doesn't have to be a big priority. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 16:04, 20 May 2011 (CEST)
:It looks good, but it will be big job add flags to all cover articles. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:32, 20 May 2011 (CEST)
::I agree that this looks good, but I don't think we should make it a big priority to update all cover articles (and similar) with flags. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 23:01, 13 June 2011 (CEST)

== Update to 1.17.0 reverted ==
As we noticed, a bit late unfortunately, that the update to 1.17.0 done october 8 2011 was not a sucess. I have with the help of our ISP reverted to the last backup they made before the update attempt. 
This regretably means that all work on the wiki between october 8 to october 10 is lost. 
Next attempt to upgrade the wiki will be done in a totally different fashion. I will notify ahead of time and I will make a backup personally of both files and database. As i have learned, our wiki is now to big to be updated through the easy webinterface I have used before, so I will not use that anymore. I will instead use SSH. 
I did make backups of everything last times I updated but that is very tedious and slow work and those times it was unnecessary, so I honestly thought it would be this time too. I am deeply sorry for my mistake and hope you can forgive. 
[[Administrator]] 18:59, 12 October 2011 (CEST)
:There is some problem with http://www.schapter.org/wiki/File:Ofantasma39saber.jpg [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:07, 21 October 2011 (CEST)
:: This file is not included in the filebackup made prior to the failed upgrade. The file became corrupted or missing somehow before the upgrade. If you have a backup yourself I hope you can reupload it. [[Administrator]] 20:10, 23 October 2011 (CEST)
:::Please try delete http://www.schapter.org/wiki/File:Ofantasma39saber.jpg. Can't upload new version. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:56, 24 October 2011 (CEST)
::::Done. [[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 16:22, 24 October 2011 (CEST)

== "Anthology Appearance" or "As Backup Title" ? ==

Which of the above description applies to the following situations:

1) N issues of a magazine is published with each number dedicated to one and only one single character (The Phantom appears only in one issue). Title of the magazine is the name of the character. One-Shot, Anthology or Backup-Title?

2) Same as above but with The Phantom appearing in two or more issues but as the only character of that particular issue). Title of the magazine is the name of the character. Anthology or Backup-Title?

3) Same as 1) and 2) above but the title of the magazine is a more generic title common to all issues. Anthology or Backup-Title?

4) N issues of a magazine is published with each number including two or more different characters. Anthology or Backup-Title?

5) 1 issue of a magazine is published with two or more different characters. Anthology or Backup-Title?

This is a little confusing for me.

I see some discrepancies in the "Phantom Publications in Brazil" article with an equal situation classified differently. Also I would like to add two publications that are missing but I'm not sure how to classify it.

:Maybe we could add category In anthology style comics or something like that. I am not sure where should be classified Almanaque do Gibi Nostalgia series. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:51, 29 December 2011 (CET)

::I know one/several case(s) where some mixture of 2 and 3 exists: [[Serie-pocket]] (same concept published in all Scandinavia). E.g. [[Serie-pocket (Sweden)]] seems to be listed as an ordinary magazine in the country template. Perhaps a more thorough thought of some of the classifications is validated. --[[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:45, 2 January 2012 (CET)
== delete page ==
Hello, I am new to Wikia, the article erroneously redirected to the Girl Girl Tiger Tiger, is delete it? [[User:Hyju|Hyju]] 01:03, 24 November 2012 (CET)

== Update to 1.19.7 ==

I have updated the wiki today from 1.16.1 so that was quite a jump in versions, It is fully functional and works as should even though the sidebar and firstpage look a little strange. I will fix that as soon as possible. Any advice why they do look this way are appreciated. [[User:Administrator|— ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 16:51, 19 July 2013 (CEST)
:Cover gallery looks terrible http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Phantom_%28Frew%29_2013 There were similar problems before with updates. And what is category Pages with broken file links, it was only here before cover scan was uploaded http://www.schapter.org/wiki/K%C4%B1z%C4%B1lmaske_S%C3%BCper_Alb%C3%BCm_57 [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] ([[User talk:Delboj4|talk]]) 10:25, 20 July 2013 (CEST)

== Wiki updated to 1.21.1 ==
Despite some new changes to the skin with this update I didn't anticipated a very succesfull update. I have redone the skin following the guidelines for this update and added some new ones. The skin is now the way I like it, I hope you do too.
I have deleted 769 spamusers and merged them into one spam-account. I have also merged all the duplicate accounts we where forced to create a while back to each users main account. This took the user count from somewhere above 850 to 76. --[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 16:11, 25 July 2013 (CEST)
:I would like if I could get main account Delboj instead Delboj4. But there are more duplicate accounts, like The Clay Camel and Clay Camel, Kit*walker and Kitwalker, Karl MAN, Karl MAN 3 and Karl MAN 5, Hojo and HojO, possible also Germ and Jerm, IpComics and Ivan. And I don't understand about this http://www.schapter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Pages_with_broken_file_links If I added article first and then later upload cover scan, can't see any reason for this category. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] ([[User talk:Delboj4|talk]]) 11:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)
:: I have renamed your account into Delboj per your request. I wasn't able to merge all of Karl Mans accounts, mostly because of the contribution list he made on this page, I tried to delete the list and then merge them but that still didnt work, so I decided to not do more with his accounts so not to break anything, it still much better as it was, he had a total of nine accounts. Hojo and Hoj0 i missed, I will merge the both into Hyjy which is the same person as far as I can tell. The others I am not sure about, better to leave them alone.
::About the category, I don't fully understand why it behaves this way. Maybe Andreas and Migi can take a look at it.
:::Thanks. It would be good if it's possible solve problem with that category. In fact, I think we don't need that category at all if it wouldn't be category for all articles with link, but without uploaded cover image. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 13:59, 26 July 2013 (CEST)
:::: I figured out how to merge Karl Man 3 and Karl Man 5 with Karl Man, I had to delete duplicate entries in the accounts watchlists, then I could merge them, user count is now 68. --[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 14:29, 26 July 2013 (CEST)
::::: Does it possible automatically change (or move) in database all links from one section, like all Turkish issues with word "serie" in name to correct "series"? Is there any option like that in wiki? [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 14:20, 27 July 2013 (CEST)
::::: Not that I am aware of, I have searched for a extension that can do that on mediwiki.org but without luck. --[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 09:24, 31 July 2013 (CEST)

== Guy Fawkes / "Minute of the Pale Death" ==
Looking for comics with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes Guy Fawkes] in, I came across [http://www.comicvine.com/fantomen-kronika-6-tales-from-the-3rd-phantom-s-ch/4000-489791/ this comic] ([[Fantomen Krönika 2/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 2/1994]]). [http://www.comics.org/issue/348620/#1031167 This site] also lists [[Fantomets Krønike 3/1989|''Fantomets Krønike'' 3/1989]]. Both issues contain "[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" ([[Special:WhatLinksHere/Minute_of_the_Pale_Death|links]]) by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]] ([http://www.ipcomics.net/Fantomet/stories.php?comments=F0360 this is the only page I can find scanned]). My questions then are:
#Has "[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" ever been published in English (Frew or otherwise)? If not, where does the English title come from (i.e. is it the official English title)?
#Is there anything I can do to help with preparation to get the "[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" article created, as a ''Phantom'' novice—especially to Team Fantomen—or for me to help out with in the meantime?
#Are there likely to be any other ''Phantom'' stories with Fawkes in, by chance?
Apologies if this isn't the right place to ask, and thanks for this great wiki whether you can help or not! [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 21:19, 1 November 2015 (CET)
:I have started a basic article about the story, where I also try to explain the title. If anyone can find the English translation of Birger Sjöberg's "Frida's Book" we may actually find how "Bleka dödens minut" is officially translated to English. Right now this is just my personal interpretation. Fawkes appears in exactly one panel of the story (though he is the unseen plotter who sets events in motion that affects the Phantom). I don't think any more Fawkes stories are planned at the moment. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] ([[User talk:Andreas|talk]]) 11:02, 2 November 2015 (CET)
::Thanks for looking into this! If it's been translated, it'll probably be in [http://www.birgersjoberg.se/pdffiler/fridas_new_clothes.pdf here] (trying to find out whether or not it is). As a song, it was translated by Martin Best as "[http://www.discogs.com/Martin-Best-When-First-I-Ever-Saw-You/release/4738101 Death's Hour]" (this translation has been repeated by [http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=1090925# Samuelson & Bergström]). Is [http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Completely_Different_Title#Swedish this site] right in saying that "Pale Deaths's Minute" is an idiom meaning "just in time" (perhaps in the context of the poem)? P.S. let me know if I get anything wrong as I go! [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 14:20, 2 November 2015 (CET)

The Mysterious Prisoner

2015-11-02T13:44:55Z

Origen: /* Followed by */ correcting link to Minute of the Pale Death

{{Magazinebox
|Title=The Mysterious Prisoner
|image=
|1st=[[Fantomen 2/1989|''Fantomen'' 2/1989]]
|Pages= 28
|Writer= [[Michael Tierres]]
|Artist= [[Jaime Vallvé]]
|Producer=[[Semic Press]]
|}}
'''"The Mysterious Prisoner"''' is a 1989 [[Team Fantomen]] story, written by [[Michael Tierres]], with art by [[Jaime Vallvé]].

==Plot summary==
{{stub}}
=== Appearances ===
<div style="float:left; width:50%;">
'''Recurring characters'''
*[[The 21st Phantom]]
*[[The 2nd Phantom]]
*[[The 3rd Phantom|the future 3rd Phantom]]
*[[Diana Palmer-Walker]]
*[[Rex]]
*[[Tom-Tom]]
*[[Anne]]
*[[Duran]]

'''One-time characters'''
*Prince Giovanni
*Prince Giuseppi

</div><div style="float:right; width:50%;">
'''Locations'''
*[[Bengali]]
**[[The Deep Woods]]
***[[The Skull Cave]]
****[[The Chronicle Room]]
*Italy
</div> 

==Related stories ==
===Refers to===
*"[[The Wig]]" by [[Lee Falk]] and [[Sy Barry]]
===Preceded by ===
*"[[The Hunchback]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]

=== Followed by===
*"[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]

== Reprints ==
This story has been published in the following publications:

=== [[Image:mini_australia.gif|border]] Australia ===
*"The Mysterious Prisoner", [[The Phantom 1731 (Frew)|''The Phantom'' #1731]] (2015)

=== [[Image:mini_brazil.gif]] Brazil ===
*"O Prisioneiro Misterioso", [[Fantasma Extra 19 (Globo)|''Fantasma Extra'' #19]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_denmark.gif|border]] Denmark ===
*"Den mystiske fange", [[Fantomet 313|''Fantomet'' #313]] (1990)

=== [[Image:mini_finland.gif|border]] Finland ===
*"Salaperäinen vanki", [[Mustanaamio 14/1989|''Mustanaamio'' 14/1989]]
*"Salaperäinen vanki", [[Mustanaamion kronikka 4/1996|''Mustanaamion kronikka'' 4/1996]]

=== [[Image:mini_norway.gif]] Norway ===
*"Den mystiske fangen", [[Fantomet 13/1989|''Fantomet'' 13/1989]]
*"Den mystiske fangen", [[Fantomets Krønike 2/1994|''Fantomets Krønike'' 2/1994]]
*"Den mystiske fangen", [[Krønikebok 2|''Krønikebok'' #2]] (2001)

=== [[Image:mini_sweden.gif]] Sweden ===
*"Den mystiske fången", [[Fantomen 2/1989|''Fantomen'' 2/1989]]
*"Den mystiske fången", [[Fantomen Krönika 1/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 1/1994]]
*"Den mystiske fången", [[Fantomen Krönika Band 2|''Fantomen Krönika'' Band 2]] (2000)

[[Category:Team Fantomen stories|Mysterious Prisoner, The]]

Death's Hour

2015-11-02T13:28:49Z

Origen: /* Reprints */ +3 Norwegian reprints & 1 more Swedish

{{Magazinebox
|Title=Minute of the Pale Death
|image=
|1st=[[Fantomen 3/1989|''Fantomen'' 3/1989]]
|Pages= ??
|Writer= [[Michael Tierres]]
|Artist= [[Jaime Vallvé]]
|Producer=[[Semic Press]]
|}}
'''"The Minute of Pale Death"''' is a 1989 [[Team Fantomen]] story, written by [[Michael Tierres]], with art by [[Jaime Vallvé]].

==Plot summary==
{{stub}}
=== Appearances ===
<div style="float:left; width:50%;">
'''Recurring characters'''
*[[The 21st Phantom]]
*[[The 2nd Phantom]]
*[[The 3rd Phantom|the future 3rd Phantom]]
*[[Diana Palmer-Walker]]
'''Real-life Characters'''
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes Guy Fawkes]

</div><div style="float:right; width:50%;">
'''Locations'''
*[[Bengali]]
**[[The Deep Woods]]
***[[The Skull Cave]]
****[[The Chronicle Room]]
*[[England]]
</div> 

==Related stories ==

===Preceded by ===
*"[[The Hunchback]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]
*"[[The Mysterious Prisoner]]" by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]]
== Behind the scenes ==
The story has never been reprinted in English. "Minute of the Pale Death" is a literal translation of the Swedish title, "Bleka dödens minut", which in turn is taken from a poem by the Swedish writer [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birger_Sj%C3%B6berg Birger Sjöberg]. "Bleka dödens minut" was also used in 1987 as the Swedish title of the film "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_Bride_(film) The Princess Bride]" which also could be a reason why the title was chosen for a Phantom story two years later.

== Reprints ==
This story has been published in the following publications:

=== [[Image:mini_norway.gif]] Norway ===
*"Dødens minutt", [[Fantomets Krønike 3/1989|''Fantomets Krønike'' 3/1989]]
*"Dødens minutt", [[Fantomets Krønike 2/2001|''Fantomets Krønike'' 2/2001]]
*"Dødens minutt", [[Krønikebok 3|''Krønikebok'' #3]] (2001)

=== [[Image:mini_sweden.gif]] Sweden ===
*"Bleka dödens minut", [[Fantomen 3/1989|''Fantomen'' 3/1989]]
*"Bleka dödens minut", [[Fantomen Krönika 2/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 2/1994]]

[[Category:Team Fantomen stories|Minute of Pale Death, The]]

PhantomWiki:Bandar Village

2015-11-02T13:20:09Z

Origen: /* Guy Fawkes / "Minute of the Pale Death" */ thanks! :D

Welcome to PhantomWiki's own '''Bandar Village'''! Here is the place to have discussions and put up question that are too general to be posted on any talk page. Please note that discussions concerning individual articles are to be hold in that article's talk page.

When starting a new discussion, please add it at the bottom of the page, and use a valid title.

As always when on PhantomWiki, remember to keep a friendly tone, and to always [[PhantomWiki:Assume good faith|assume good faith]].

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=== Countries Template ===
I believe necessary to delete the name Martinique from the list of countries mentioned in the “Phantom publications by country” template, this island being not an independent country but a French overseas department located in the Caribbean Sea. Furthermore, at least to the best of my knowledge, any native Phantom comic-book has been published there. [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 12:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

:There was something in newspapers. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have also thought of that, but I'm still unable to identify such local newspapers. Somebody could help ? More largely, it however remains a logical matter: if the list ought to be devoted to countries, Martinique has not the same status as the other names...I suggest to omit it, at least until some concrete publishing information might be found. If so, and only then, we would have to cite namely Martinique, either in the French global list with a mention of "special local publication", either under its actual list location.[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 05:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

:There is definitely a problem mentioned here; should only independent countries be listed here? There are several territories around the world that is under ther rule of som country, but have a little kind of independence. I know that the USA has several such territories, as have France and the UK and probably a few other countries. One example that I know of is Puerto Rico, which has a couple of millions of inabitants and has independent internal rule, but otherwise is part of the USA (they voted in 1993 to remain in their current status and not become the 51st State of America). Should such "countries" (or "territories") have a page of their own if they have published "[[The Phantom]]"? or should any publication be listed under the country to which it "belong"? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 14:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

From what is rightly pointed out by Karl, I finally think that the concept of countries is not primordial and that territories having their own powers of autonomy might be listed too, at least when some local Phantom publication is identified. So, in a first time, only “real” countries would be cited within the global list, and in another time, this one could be completed with more "distant territories" when something specific is known to be published there. However, even in the latter case, would not it be useful to name the territories into some kind of brackets in order to distinguish them more clearly and show that we knew they are not similar than “ordinary countries”… ? What seems important is to not adding a flow of territories names when any local Phantom publication is really linked.[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 13:06, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

:We could put the territories after the real countries in a smaller text like I have done here below with Martinique as a test. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 16:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::On my PC the difference is hardly visible. I have added another way of showing 'dependencies' (if this is the way we want to categorize them). --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 08:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

{|
!colspan="2" style="background-color:#ddeeee"| Phantom publications by country
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Europe
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Belgium|Belgium]] • [[The Phantom publications in Croatia|Croatia]] • [[The Phantom publications in the Czech Republic|Czech Republic]] • [[The Phantom publications in Denmark|Denmark]] • [[The Phantom publications in Estonia|Estonia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Finland|Finland]] • [[The Phantom publications in France|France]] • [[The Phantom publications in Germany|Germany]] • [[The Phantom publications in Greece|Greece]] • [[The Phantom publications in Hungary|Hungary]] • [[The Phantom publications in Italy|Italy]] • [[The Phantom publications in the Netherlands|Netherlands]] • [[The Phantom publications in Norway|Norway]] • [[The Phantom publications in Poland|Poland]] • [[The Phantom publications in Portugal|Portugal]] • [[The Phantom publications in Russia|Russia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Slovakia|Slovakia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Slovenia|Slovenia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Spain|Spain]] • [[The Phantom publications in Sweden|Sweden]] • [[The Phantom publications in Turkey|Turkey]] • [[The Phantom publications in the United Kingdom|United Kingdom]] • [[The Phantom publications in Yugoslavia|Yugoslavia]]
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Americas
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Argentina|Argentina]] • [[The Phantom publications in Brazil|Brazil]] • [[The Phantom publications in Canada|Canada]] • [[The Phantom publications in Chile|Chile]] • [[The Phantom publications in Colombia|Colombia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Mexico|Mexico]] • [[The Phantom publications in Panama|Panama]] • [[The Phantom publications in Uruguay|Uruguay]] • [[The Phantom publications in the USA|USA]] • [[The Phantom publications in Venezuela|Venezuela]] • [[The Phantom publications in Martinique|Martinique]]
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|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Argentina|Argentina]] • [[The Phantom publications in Barbados|Barbados (Canada)]] • [[The Phantom publications in Barbados|Barbados]] • [[The Phantom publications in Brazil|Brazil]] • [[The Phantom publications in Canada|Canada]] • [[The Phantom publications in Chile|Chile]] • [[The Phantom publications in Colombia|Colombia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Mexico|Mexico]] • [[The Phantom publications in Panama|Panama]] • [[The Phantom publications in Uruguay|Uruguay]] • [[The Phantom publications in the USA|USA]] • [[The Phantom publications in Venezuela|Venezuela]] • [[The Phantom publications in Martinique|Martinique (France)]]
|-
!style="background-color:#ebebff"| Other
|style="background-color:#eeeeee;text-align:center;font-size:80%" | [[The Phantom publications in Angola|Angola]] • [[The Phantom publications in Australia|Australia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Egypt|Egypt]] • [[The Phantom publications in Fiji|Fiji]] • [[The Phantom publications in India|India]] • [[The Phantom publications in Indonesia|Indonesia]] • [[The Phantom publications in Israel|Israel]] • [[The Phantom publications in Kenya|Kenya]] • [[The Phantom publications in Lebanon|Lebanon]] • [[The Phantom publications in New Zealand|New Zealand]] • [[The Phantom publications in Papua New Guinea|Papua New Guinea]] • [[The Phantom publications in the Philippines|Philippines]] • [[The Phantom publications in Singapore|Singapore]] • [[The Phantom publications in Thailand|Thailand]] • [[The Phantom publications in Tunisia|Tunisia]]
|-<noinclude>[[Category:Navigation templates]]</noinclude>
|}
::: What's decided about this? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:14, 25 June 2011 (CEST)

::::Nothing has been decided, the discussion just ended. On the computer that I am currently using, I don't see any difference at all in size, I therefore prefer to the second option if we decide to add dependencies. I am favoring to add dependencies only if they have published something independently (that is, it was only published there and not in the country to which the belong. --[[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:35, 16 July 2011 (CEST)

:During the fifties the daily Phantom strips were published in a newspapers Barbados, an island country in the Lesser Antilles then a member of the Canadian Confederation and now independent, namely "The Sunday Advocate" (Editor : Advocate Co. at Bridgetown Barbados, Bridgetown, Barbados). So it's need to create a country template. Despite the fact that the title evokes a weekly basis it was published every day. [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 16:55, 8 February 2012 (CET)
::I've added one way of showing it (including an example if Barbados should start to publish now as an independent country). Should I add it to the template? [[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 19:03, 8 February 2012 (CET)
:::I think that shouldn't be Canada in link at all, only mentioned in article. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 19:16, 8 February 2012 (CET)
::::So both (in the event that Barbados now starts publishing the Phantom) links should point to the same article? [[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 19:44, 8 February 2012 (CET)
:::::I think that should be link The Phantom publications in Barbados only, without Canada. Inside article in comment field we could add info about Canada. This is not same case as with former Yugoslavian republics. For example, Egypt was part of Kingdom of Egypt and Sudan and then United Arab Federation, but we have only one article for Egypt. Of course, we can use several flags and different country name in lists. Do you agree? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 20:05, 8 February 2012 (CET)

== Update January 2011 ==
To all: we tried to do an update of the MediaWiki software this weekend but ran into some trouble. We always have a backup of the wiki database stored, so we could restore the Wiki today. However, the last few updates were missing from the back up. This means that the historical 10,000th article is gone with other articles that need to be rewritten. Sorry for that, and a big thanks to all contributors who helped us actually reach 10,000 articles and hopefully will help us do it again (and this time for good!) /[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 14:21, 17 January 2011 (UTC) and Brian (administrator)

:I have to say I need more details. Are these articles now permanently lost? And if so, is it possible to have a list of which articles are concerned, that in case some of them might be however re-written or at least might received a new version? I am surprised that nobody has responded to this information… but maybe I don’t quite understand what the situation is, and that because of my only basic English? Thanks in advance for your reply [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 16:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::The only articles and changes that were lost were those who were created on January 14th. There is no list for the articles that could not be restored from the backup, however, I believe that most articles already have been written again by those who had created them.[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 16:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

== Edited stories ==
In Italia and Brazil some newspaper stories were edited and completely redrawn with new panels added by their local artists. In Italia Nebrini stories (some of them, I am not sure for all) were later redrawn with new panels by Fratelli Spada artists. One or two newspaper stories were remade in L'Avventuroso. However, do we need create separate list for these remake stories? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:King Comics redrew some stories and those stories have their own articles. Example: [[Sunday story]] "[[Treasure of the Skull Cave]]" and [[King Comics story]] "[[The Treasure of the Skull Cave]]". Also, Team Fantomen has made remakes of old stories drawn by Moore and McCoy, they also have their separate articles. If what you are describing is of the magnitude of any of what I have described, then I believe that they should be given their own articles without hesitation, if this is a milder case, then perhaps further discussion is necessary. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 17:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hispano Americana ==
I've started add Spanish Hispano Americana issues http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Category:El_Hombre_Enmascarado_%28Hispano_Americana%29_issues

But I am not sure how we will add links for their other editions http://www.tebeosfera.com/buscador/el%20hombre%20enmascarado/

Maybe year publishing could be difference in links? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

== Creating a template for art that does not fit anywhere ==
There are some art that is neither a panel, nor is it a cover, at least not used as a cover at the image in question. Since it is some form of art, someone should be credited as people are credited in the panel and cover templates. A couple of examples: [[Image:Fantomen60logo.jpg|250px]],[[Image:Fantomen Samlarmapp2.jpg|200px]], [[Image:Falk lindahl.jpg|200px]], [[Image:Patrolshirt.jpg|200px]]. 
These images does NOT portray panels nor covers. I therefore propose that a new template should be created for such items. I might add that I at some of the images which might meet my criteria already have used one of the existing template, that is then needed to be corrected if you agree. Is there anyone against or for my proposal? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 19:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:I too think that there should be a category for 'odd' images like the ones you presented, e.g. 'Miscellaneous art' or 'Other art'. Should we do a distinction between 'paper printed' (scanned) objects like your first three examples and 'non paper printed' (photographed) ones like your last example? --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 11:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::Firstly, I have to point out that what I am asking for here is a TEMPLATE, not a category; there exists already categories in which these images fits: "Covers and illustrations" categories are very broad. If an exess of such images suddenly comes, there might be a need, but I don't really think that it ever will.
::Secondly, I think that one template for all other art is sufficient. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:59, 26 January 2011 (CET)

:::There has not been any further discussion here, but I have not met any negative response. If no negative response comes within the next week, I will create a new template, [[Template:MiscArt]], for these images. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:24, 17 February 2011 (CET)

OK, no reply, I take the silence as a yes and will start with the template. [[Special:Contributions/213.115.244.54|213.115.244.54]] 13:12, 28 February 2011 (CET)
:I have now created a template and started to apply it, firstly at the examples given. I have inserted the template below. It might need some slight changes, but overall, i think it is good. Feel free to make changes if you think it is necessary. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:30, 28 February 2011 (CET)
[[Template:MiscArt]], something went wrong when I put it up, follow the link instead. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:32, 28 February 2011 (CET)

== New Special page ==
Have you ever wondered how many contributions your friends have made? 
Who have made the most, the last seven days or the last thirty? 
Now you have an answer to these questions on the new special page located under "Wiki data and tools" the [[Special:ContributionScores|Contribution scores]] 
[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]])]] 15:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:THat's a great tool, thanks for adding it, though I and many of the older editors have used several accounts while editing, so totally, we have done more than what is shown. I, for instance, have calculated that I have made another 10 085 edits at other accounts before the login problem was solved. I see no way that a contributor could get that credit added to the account that they are using now, however, I also note that it is only logged-in users that are shown any result. I previously to the time to sum up all the edits that I made with different accounts, putting the result at my personal page, and could therefore see that I have used several IP-addresses, but that I with five of them totally have done more than 7000 edits; some of those accounts would be at a top 10 all revisions list.
:I am not greedy for more credit, but I think it would be interesting to see the IP-addresses of those that edited without being logged-in, if it is possible. Because of the log-in problems that was experienced for some time, that might be good. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:18, 26 January 2011 (CET)
 
::I am well aware of this problem, this is one of the reasons I wanted to do the update to MediaWiki 1.16.1 
::With this version I can add an extension which enables me to merge users. 
::I will do some testing and then report my results. After that we can discuss merging obsolete users with current. 
::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 09:08, 27 January 2011 (CET)
 
:::I have now tested to merge a couple of test users I made. 
:::Sadly the extension "merge user" can not achieve what I have hoped. It seems it is more a novel way to delete spammers then merge actual contributors with multiple usernames. 
:::How important is this? I can try to find a solution to "contributions made with several user names" if this is the wish of least a couple of contributors. 
:::If it´s not really important to the majority I will find a better use of my time :-). 
:::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:14, 2 february 2011 (CET)
 
:::: I have just learned that you can add the following to your user page if you so desire: 
::::Number of unique pages I have edited: <nowiki>{{#cscore:UserName|pages}}</nowiki> 
::::Substitute UserName with your username. You can make multiple lines if you have used more than one username 
::::For me it will look like this, Number of unique pages I have edited: {{#cscore:Administrator|pages}}
::::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:16, 17 february 2011 (CET)

::Thanks, I will try this at once and see if I could add the different accounts edit into one. I will come back as soon as I have tried. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 16:55, 17 February 2011 (CET)

:::Apparently, It does not work do to so with IP-addresses, which means that I have no easy way of finding that out (The only way is to go to the contributions pages and go through in some cases more than 1,500 edits to see how many unique pages I edited, something I won't do.). I have, however some trouble in understanding exactly how the score is calculated.
:::The information "Scores are calculated as follows:
***One (1) point for each unique page edited
***Square root of (total edits made) - (total unique pages) * 2"
:::is hard to understand. I would prefer a formula showing how to use edits (e) and page edits (p). The only thing I really understand of the formula is that the score (s) is a number between p and e. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 17:24, 17 February 2011 (CET)

:I'll add a genuine example: score: s=12, page edited: p=6, total edits: e=16. square root of 16 is 4, 4-6*2=4-12=-8. (16-6*2)=4, square root of 4 is 2. (16-6)*2=10*2=20, square root is between 4 and 5. I have no idea of how they got the score to 12. Please, what is the formula? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 17:41, 17 February 2011 (CET)
::You get one point for each unique edited page PLUS the sum of that complicated calculation. In your example that would be 6 +((square root of (16-6))*2) = 6 + ((square root of 10) *2) = 6 + (3.16227766*2) = 6 + 6.32455532 = approx. 12 [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:07, 17 February 2011 (CET)

:::Thanks! I think then that the second point should be written (Square root of (total edits made) - (total unique pages)) * 2 in order to make it more clear. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:19, 17 February 2011 (CET)

Since it seems impossible to merge accounts, I have below started upon a Contributions table that will add those together manually and creating a minimum score and unique pages. It will have to be gradually updated though. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 15:47, 2 March 2011 (CET)
:Now all figures are correct, then I make updates. What do you think, does it need an own page? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 15:51, 2 March 2011 (CET)
::I have made the identifications based on name similarities below, if two user names does not represent the same user, please correct. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:48, 2 March 2011 (CET)
{| {{table}}
!Ordinary Score !!unique pages !!total edits !!Contributor !!Also used !!minimum unique !!added edits !!Minimum score
|-
|7538 || 7413 || 11302 || [[User:Karl MAN]] ||[[User:Karl MAN 6]] [[User:Karl MAN 5]] [[User:Karl MAN 7]] [[User:Karl MAN O]] [[User:Karl MAN 4]] [[User:Karl MAN 3]] [[User:Karl MAN Obadja]] [[User:Karl MAN 2]] ||7413 ||2426 + 11302 =13728 ||(Square root of (13728 - 7413))*2+7413= 7572
|-
|6295 || 6196 || 8635 || [[User:MiGi]] || [[User:MiGi I]] ||6196|| 169 + 8635 =8804 ||(Square root of (8804 - 6196))*2+6196= 6298
|-
|6183 || 6047 || 10690 || [[User:Delboj4]] || [[User:Delboj]] [[User:Delboj3]] [[User:Delboj2]] ||6047 || 2219 + 10690 =12909 ||(Square root of (12909 - 6047))*2+6047= 6213
|-
|4564 || 4449 || 7772 || [[User:Member 7]] ||[[User:Andreas]] ||4449 ||3215 + 7772 =10987 ||(Square root of (10987 - 4449))*2+4449= 4611
|-
|4319 || 4296 || 4423 || [[User:Administrator]] ||[[User:Founder 1]] ||4296 ||187 + 4423 =4610 ||(Square root of (4610 - 4296))*2+4296= 4331
|-
|2336 || 2275 || 3215 || [[User:Andreas]] ||[[User:Member 7]] ||4449 ||7772 + 3215 =10987 ||(Square root of (10987 - 4449))*2+4449= 4611
|-
|2132 || 2029 || 4670 || [[User:Member 37]] ||
|-
|1066 || 1039 || 1228 || [[User:Alain03]] ||[[User:Alain05]] [[User:Alain]] [[User:Alain06]] [[User:Alain02]] [[User:Alain07]] [[User:Alain04]] [[User:Alain01]] ||1039 ||321 + 1228 =1549 ||(Square root of (1549 - 1039))*2+1039= 1084
|-
|1000 || 966 || 1252 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander]] ||[[User:Dark Lord Xander5]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander2]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander6]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander7]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander3]] [[User:Dark Lord Xander4]] ||966 ||2177 + 1252 =3429 ||(Square root of (3429 - 966))*2+966= 1065

|-
|770 || 732 || 1096 || [[User:Delboj2]] ||
|-
|644 || 612 || 873 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander4]] ||
|-
|609 || 565 || 1047 || [[User:Karl MAN 2]] ||
|-
|580 || 540 || 941 || [[User:Member 18]] ||
|-
|567 || 543 || 689 || [[User:Knallhatten]] ||
|-
|543 || 516 || 702 || [[User:Lothar]] ||
|-
|507 || 476 || 722 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander3]] ||
|-
|439 || 411 || 610 || [[User:Karl MAN Obadja]] ||
|-
|412 || 391 || 504 || [[User:Delboj3]] ||
|-
|412 || 381 || 624 || [[User:Karl MAN 3]] ||
|-
|356 || 321 || 619 || [[User:Delboj]] ||
|-
|257 || 239 || 323 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander7]] ||
|-
|208 || 196 || 230 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander6]] ||
|-
|165 || 154 || 187 || [[User:Founder 1]] ||
|-
|161 || 153 || 169 || [[User:MiGi I]] ||
|-
|142 || 139 || 141 || [[User:Alain01]] ||
|-
|141 || 128 || 171 || [[User:Minatte1]] ||
|-
|105 || 90 || 147 || [[User:ERIK S]] ||
|-
|94 || 85 || 104 || [[User:Alain04]] ||
|-
|73 || 60 || 100 || [[User:Daniel Leahy]] ||
|-
|67 || 54 || 99 || [[User:Kaya Ö]] ||
|-
|55 || 52 || 54 || [[User:Klaus]] ||
|-
|50 || 42 || 60 || [[User:Alain07]] ||
|-
|50 || 23 || 201 || [[User:Kit n kat]] ||
|-
|37 || 28 || 49 || [[User:Dougy]] ||
|-
|35 || 29 || 39 || [[User:Karl MAN 4]] ||
|-
|32 || 24 || 42 || [[User:Karl MAN O]] ||
|-
|31 || 20 || 48 || [[User:ClayCamel]] ||
|-
|26 || 21 || 28 || [[User:Karl MAN 7]] ||
|-
|25 || 11 || 59 || [[User:Gtar]] ||
|-
|23 || 18 || 24 || [[User:Karl MAN 5]] ||
|-
|22 || 15 || 29 || [[User:Geaghs]] ||
|-
|21 || 15 || 25 || [[User:Bjungan]] ||
|-
|18 || 16 || 17 || [[User:JD]] ||
|-
|18 || 12 || 20 || [[User:David Black]] ||
|-
|16 || 14 || 15 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander2]] ||
|-
|14 || 10 || 14 || [[User:Dark Lord Xander5]] ||
|-
|14 || 11 || 13 || [[User:Bera-na-liva-17]] ||
|-
|13 || 13 || 13 || [[User:Member 84]] ||
|-
|12 || 12 || 12 || [[User:Vogler]] ||
|-
|12 || 12 || 12 || [[User:Karl MAN 6]] ||
|-
|12 || 7 || 13 || [[User:Klovis]] ||
|-
|11 || 4 || 18 || [[User:Morristown]] ||
|-
|10 || 7 || 10 || [[User:PAJ]] ||
|-
|9 || 7 || 8 || [[User:Kit*walker]] ||
|-
|8 || 6 || 7 || [[User:Peas and corn]] ||
|-
|8 || 8 || 8 || [[User:Jp2designs]] ||
|-
|8 || 3 || 9 || [[User:The Clay Camel]] ||
|-
|7 || 2 || 9 || [[User:Devil882]] ||
|-
|7 || 7 || 7 || [[User:Alain02]] ||
|-
|7 || 4 || 6 || [[User:Prabhat]] ||
|-
|6 || 4 || 5 || [[User:Alain06]] ||
|-
|6 || 4 || 5 || [[User:JoeMD]] ||
|-
|5 || 3 || 4|| [[User:Ivan]] ||
|-
|5 || 2 || 4 || [[User:Bera-na-liva]] ||
|-
|4 || 4 || 4 || [[User:Comic guy]] ||
|-
|3 || 1 || 2 || [[User:Robgoldy]] ||
|-
|3 || 3 || 3 || [[User:Alain]] ||
|-
|2 || 2 || 2 || [[User:Sal]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Trail member klaus]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Capeto]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Tove test]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Kitwalker]] ||
|-
|1 || 1 || 1 || [[User:Alain05]] ||
|-
|}

:::After some pondering, I think that perhaps, it is to much to manage. I will make a list with the most important contributors at my page, but I see no need to do anything with those who joined after the log in problem was solved. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:23, 11 March 2011 (CET)

== Update to MediaWiki 1.16.1 ==
Yesterday the update to the newest version of MediaWiki was done, this time without any problems. 
With the update the new default skin of PhantomWiki is Vector, but with some small modifications to make it standout and be - in my opinion- more visual appealing and to give at a PhantomWiki touch. 
There are two reasons to change the default to Vector, one is that it is the official skin of MediaWiki and Wikipedia, any changes and improvements will be done to this skin. 
By using MediaWikis default skin I can implement these changes and improvements much easier than trying to copy them to another skin. 
The second is by using Vector as default any visitor and user familiar with Wikipedia will feel right at home. 
For these reasons I strongly encourage all users who now uses other skins to change there default skin to Vector. 
[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 09:33, 27 January 2011 (CET)
:: I have taken the liberty to delete all the old unused skins so not to encourage their use by someone new. The only skin remaining is the old default "bookjive" and the current default "vector". 
::[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:36, 31 January 2011 (CET)

== Dynamic/different template needed ==
When browsing the wiki something struck me as, well not optimal. If a person is alive and well the page states "Death: N/A"
That really gives the wrong impression. 
I understand that the problem occurs because of the template. An elegant solution would be a dynamic template that doesn't show the row in question if it is not used. 
Does anybody know if this can be done? 
[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:45, 31 January 2011 (CET)
:I have taken a look at [[Template:Issuebox]], where the lowest row disappears if it is left empty. After some thinking, I have the suspicion that it is caused by the fact that there is no extra stuff added there automatically like at the other places. Due to that, i conclude that it probably cannot be made to disappear. There might, however, be another solution in writing "not yet" instead of N/A, I personally don't really know what N/A stays for, but I get the intended meaning. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:19, 11 March 2011 (CET)
::N/A means "Not Avaliable" or "Not Applicable". It ''is'' possible to create dynamic templates, I just don't know how. For example, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_film Infobox film] template on Wikipedia only shows fields if they have any information in them - otherwise that field "disappears". We need something like that here too. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 18:36, 11 March 2011 (CET)

== Donations ==
I have included a donate button in the left sidebar for those who want to contribute money for the cost of the wiki. 
[http://www.schapter.org The Scandinavian Chapter] will pay all costs involved with PhantomWiki but any and all help with this is welcome. 
[[User:Administrator|Administrator]] 16:33, 17 February 2011 (CET)

== Flag of Spain ==
In all articles should be corrected Spanish flags based on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Spain] [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:18, 18 February 2011 (CET)
:[[Image:Mini_secondspanishrep.gif|thumb|Second spanish republic]]
:[[Image:Mini_spainunderfranco (first).gif|thumb|left|Spain under Franco (first)]]
:After reading the important part of the article, I can sum it up as: 1931-1939(40) Second Spanish Republic, In 1940 the next flag was introduced, Spain under Franco (first), 1940-1945, then came Spain under Franco, 1945-1977, and then, January 21, 1977-1981, it was a flag which I don't think is uploaded here, then 1981-present, we have Spain. Hopefully, I have understood it correctly, otherwise, I will make corrections. because I agree with Delboj4. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 22:04, 18 February 2011 (CET)
[[Image:Mini_spainunderfranco.gif|thumb|Spain under Franco]]
[[Image:Mini_spain.gif|thumb|left|Spain (Kingdom of Spain)]]
::However, it will be a big job change all flags. Something similiar there was with Egyptian flags. In fact, all issues categorized as Egyptian were printed in Egypt, but through history country has different names and flags, sometimes also territory (in "federation" with other countries). [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:17, 18 February 2011 (CET)
:::I think it would be good if we decided for which exact periods the different flags should be used and then also upload the missing one. Could we come to an agreement? And also, when an issue was published near a shift, but we don't know the date, what shall we do then? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 18:52, 23 February 2011 (CET)
 
 
 
In my opinion the flags should not be changed as the flags serve only as a small illustration of where a comic has been published. Not the history of Spain. For the former purpose the flag should be easily recognizable, the version most can recognize is probably the latest.
[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]])]] 14:30, 7 March 2011 (CET)

: If we changed flags for other countries, for example Yugoslavia, I think that we should change all flags. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:38, 7 March 2011 (CET)

== Cite ==
Cite is a extension that adds two parser hooks to MediaWiki, <nowiki><ref> and <references/>; </nowiki> these operate together to add citations to pages. 
I don't know if there is a big use for it but as other wikis uses I thought I better install it. 

Usage example: 
<nowiki>
According to scientists, the Sun is pretty big.<ref>'''E. Miller, ''The Sun'', (New York: Academic Press, 2005), 23-5.</ref></nowiki> 
<nowiki>
The Moon, however, is not so big.<ref>'''R. Smith, "Size of the Moon", ''Scientific American'', 46 (April 1978): 44-6.</ref></nowiki> 
 
<nowiki>
== Notes == 

<references/>
</nowiki>
 
[[Special:Contributions/194.18.255.18|— [[User:Administrator]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]])]] 08:57, 22 February 2011 (CET)

== Search tool difficulties ==
Not very easy to find the article concerning the 1961 tv pilot when using the Wiki search engine. The article is entitled "The Phantom (1961 TV pilot)" and in fact I only found it through Google with the following search demand: “Phantom Tv Pilot 1961”. There, the Schapter Wiki article was placed as the second result. Coming back to the Wiki, and strangely enough, when typing “TV” not any title matches / same failure with “1961 TV” or with “TV 1961” / even not better result with “PHANTOM TV 1961”… And it is finally when just typing «1961 » (something however less precise than the previous entries), that the mention "The Phantom (1961 TV pilot)" appears as the first “Page title matches” entry. Rather unusual but I suppose it is because the words (1961 TV pilot) are either written between brackets or the use of parentheses. Maybe a presentation like "The Phantom / 1961 TV pilot" (separating solidus) would be a easier help for finding the page? [[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 14:38, 3 March 2011 (CET)

== Part One or 1? ==
There are differences in some articles: story name is Part One or Part 1 and Part Two or Part 2. It must be same in all articles. Similiar problem with a few other stories. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:42, 27 February 2011 (CET)
:I agree that we must be able to decide a standard, also if there should be capital letters or not, but why did you start the discussion '''''here'''''? In my opinion, it belongs to [[PhantomWiki:Bandar Village]] or at [[PhantomWiki talk:Style Guide]]. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 10:36, 28 February 2011 (CET)
::I had thought that discussion about some story should be separate. Ok, than we can move this to Bandar Village. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:05, 28 February 2011 (CET)

== The Set Up ==
In "Best story" template exists link for story "The Set Up", but what contest should be putted in that link? That story was parted in two, there are links for "[[The Set Up, Part 1]]" and "[[The Set Up, Part 2]]"? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:07, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:Both parts were considered as one story for this vote, like "Curse of the Granite God" in [[Best story 1992 (Norway)]]. So I guess both parts should be put in the template. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 12:56, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:: Than it would be the best if you can edit template. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:42, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:::Done. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 14:30, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:::: OK, thanks. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:45, 5 March 2011 (CET)

== Year or Christmas Albums? ==
Why Mustanaamio and Fantomet Albums have in the links name Year instead Christmas? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:21, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:Most of the Fantomet albums has the word 'Årsalbum' (Year album) on the cover, with (I think) 3 exceptions that has the word 'Julen' (Christmas), along with the year, on the cover. Some of the older swedish ones have 'Julen' on the cover, but nowadays it's mostly only the year itself. But they have always been referred to as 'Julalbum' (Christmas album) for the last 60 years or so. The finnish ones seems to mostly have only the year on the cover. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 00:48, 5 March 2011 (CET)
::OK, thanks for info. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 09:12, 5 March 2011 (CET)

== 1st of Team Fantomen stories ==
First publications of newer Team Fantomen stories usually was in Fantomet issues, sometimes in Frew. I think that all informations should be changed. I am not sure are all informations about Fantomet publication dates completely correct, but they were published before Fantomen issues. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:21, 4 March 2011 (CET)
:We have discussed that somewhere else, but I can't find that now. It is true that some TF stories sometimes had the first release date in Norway or Australia. However, they were still produced for ''[[Fantomen]]'' in Sweden, which is why we kept the Swedish issue as 1st publication. I think that if we look into the matter, ''[[Mustanaamio]]'' had the first release dates for many years too. So, yes we can change the 1st publication to the issue with the earliest official release date, but it should still be noted that the story was created for ''Fantomen'' and the others have translated their version from the original ''Fantomen'' version. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 12:56, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:: Than I don't know. Where put info about that? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:44, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:::[[Talk:The_Phantom_Crusader,_Part_3|Here]] is the old discussion, though it isn't much of a discussion. We just acknowledged that some TF stories appear first in other countries, despite the fact that they are produced for ''Fantomen'' in Sweden.[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 16:12, 5 March 2011 (CET)
:I like the way we are doing it now; you always know that you are to look for the first Swedish publication of a Team Fantomen story. Of course, I have to obey to what is decided, however, whatever we finally decide with, I think that we should continue with the way that we have done so far, to create as little confusion as possible, when we finally arrive at a decision and start making the according edits. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 15:46, 7 March 2011 (CET)
::Yes, maybe that was good, but than must be changed "1st" to something other. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 15:50, 7 March 2011 (CET)
:::What about "original publication"? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 16:27, 7 March 2011 (CET)
::::Will we decide what do in this case? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:44, 18 March 2011 (CET)
:::::My opinion is that we keep it as it is, possibly change the template, and that is what I vote for. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 18:08, 23 March 2011 (CET)

== Image on daily strip articles ==

What if for each daily story we uploaded the very first strip as an image for the Newspaper box (like I just did for The Slave Market of Mucar) instead of an aleatory panel? Or is it too small?
:I think it looks good, as long as we don't get in trouble using a strip with too high resolution. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 18:13, 6 March 2011 (CET)

I like it also but I think its too small. Maybe the Newspaper box could be changed or the whole article could be rearranged to accommodate a larger image. I like the way the IpComics site does that for each story you have and image of the first strip or page. It’s great for cross-referencing. When I want to find the origins of a story I’m reading I usually go to the IpComics site and by glancing at the first strip I usually solve my doubts. I find this wrong. I should be coming here! After all this is supposed to be the ultimate Phantom reference guide.
About the copyright thing maybe we should put a copyright watermark over each image. But remember, we’ve been uploadind cover images for ages and these are also copryrighted material.

:The copyright information could be kept at the text that accompanies the file, I don't want nice images to be ruined by copyright watermarks!!! I would prefer if a panel that is relatively representative of the story is used, merely using the first panel may then in at least some cases be a bad idea. In some stories, there are also interesting panels that could be used to illustrate other articles, these might also work good in the story article. I am here remembering an advise from Wikipedia (or was it Seriewikin?) to upload images that could be used in several articles if possible. (P.S. You need to sign your edits in the Bandar Village so that we know who wrote them. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:41, 6 March 2011 (CET)

::I think that would be better continue upload one panel from story, this doesn't look good, as far as I think. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:54, 6 March 2011 (CET)

== Fantom-hefte prose stories ==
Some of Fantom-hefte issues included some short prose stories. I think that we should create new list for them, but where exactly? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:11, 7 March 2011 (CET)

== Main page ==
Maybe the Main Page should have some template boxes at the bottom for Countries, Characters, People, etc... like the MandrakeWiki. It would make it much easier to go to the main articles instead of having to navigate thru all sorts of links to get to an article like we do at the moment. [[User:Lothar|Lothar]]
:Good idea - countries template is added. We don't have templates for those other things, and I don't know if they can be done without becoming too huge? [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 00:47, 9 March 2011 (CET)
Templates can be collapsible like in this Beatles article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatles. So I don't think size would be a problem. [[User:Lothar|Lothar]]
::True, but we have not been able to create collapsible templates here on PhantomWiki. It could be useful, so I would love to see someone create a collapsible template! [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 18:33, 11 March 2011 (CET)

== Kızılmaske ==
I am not sure, but I think that we will must rename these articles http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Category:K%C4%B1z%C4%B1lmaske_issues
I have made a mistake when once write "serie" instead "series". But in that time I didn't know there were three series. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 23:33, 10 March 2011 (CET)
:I am fine with that, 126 moves to make, plus perhaps a couple of redirects for each that needs to be fixed. I am, however, uncertain what is grammatically correct; isn't it one serie, several series? or what is said in these circumstances? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 12:40, 11 March 2011 (CET)
::Than I don't know. Someone who is sure about that what is correct should decide. However, we will must create tables for Issue overview. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:44, 11 March 2011 (CET)
:::This should be correct [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series], Series is in singular and plural. I think that we will also must reupload cover with new name and maybe change 1st to First and etc. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:24, 15 April 2011 (CEST)

== Fantomets Krønikebok ==
*On some web sites Fantomets Krønikebok and Det tjueførste Fantomet issues were categorized as Krønikebok, but on other sites are as separate series. What we should make in this case? I had change some links to Krønikebok, but maybe that's wrong? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:44, 18 March 2011 (CET)

== The use of (internal) links ==
* There seems to be two schools about how to use links within the text on a page; Use a link only the first time a name (for example) is mentioned or Use a link every time that name is mentioned. I belong to the second. Here's an example on why: Say you've found the site when searching for [[The Super-Jet Gang]] from the outside and you're from Germany, so you scroll down to the german reprints. Then you see the text ''(+Team Fantomen prologue by Anders Thorell)'' appended to the title, and wondering what is ''Team Fantomen''? To find that out you must know that you should scroll upp one page to the finnish(!) section and there click on the link (or do a page search or a site search)! Why not have a link on the 'german row'? Okey, now you've found the link to [[Team Fantomen]] and checks out the latest stories, say story #856, ''The Legend of Rahotep, Part 1'', and you notice that the artists name is Leppänen. Wonder what else work he's done? Now you have to scroll up pages after pages till you reach #165, and then you can click on the link (or do another search)! Maybe this was an extreme example, but why don't we have links 'everywhere'? Isn't the whole point of markup languages that you're only a click away from more interesting stuff? If we follow the first school we should remove one link if the artist of a story also did the cover, shouldn't we? ;-) Anyhow, I think we should be consistent and I vote for number 2. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 16:15, 20 March 2011 (CET)
::I come from the school of "option 1", because I began doing wiki edits on "regular" Wikipedia where the rule is to only link to an article once, or only once per section if it is a long article. But I do see your point, and unlike regular Wikipedia our articles will not have the possibility of being filled with links for every word in an article, because of the subject matter our articles are limited to. So, my gut reaction is "option 1" but I can be convinced that option 2 is the best if others think so... [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 18:13, 20 March 2011 (CET)
::I think that's option 1 better, but however you want. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 19:29, 20 March 2011 (CET)
:::The most extreme example here mentioned is the list of [[Team Fantomen stories]] and when looking at it that way I have to tend to agree with option 2. I have previously done option 1, because that how it is done at the regular wikipedia. I am, however, bent on doing option 2, or at least a version of option 2. Previously, had a name been linked more than once in an article, it had usually been "corrected". I propose that we make it a policy to NOT make these "corrections" and also in indexes, particularly an index like the one in [[Team Fantomen stories]], make the creators name be linked always. I think it actually will become easier further on if every name could be linked. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 18:37, 23 March 2011 (CET)
::::I have made changes to the [[Team Fantomen stories]] page, all in one go so it's easy to undo if we want to, so we can get a feeling for it before making the final decision. All in all, I think that Karl MAN's suggestion is a good middleway. P.S. Maybe we should split the page into decades or something. It's getting huge! --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 20:24, 23 March 2011 (CET)
:::::It looks really strange now. I think that's not good solution. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:03, 24 March 2011 (CET)
::::::I have no real problem with it, however, one of the reasons that it work practically better this way is that this index has an excess of redlinks, had every story had its own article, you could have gone to that link and gotten the info. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:11, 24 March 2011 (CET)
:::::::What's decided about this? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:52, 10 April 2011 (CEST)

== Stickers & Albums ==
Does anyone have any idea what articles about Sticker Albums should include? We can add articles about these two albums [http://picasaweb.google.com/kitwalker19/StickersAlbums#] [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:53, 22 March 2011 (CET)

== The Vault of Missing Men ==
About the link "The Vault of Missing Men" from [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Skull_Cave], contest should be moved to link for story and replaced with new. All links in articles for story with same name changed. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:59, 24 March 2011 (CET)
:Done. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 19:56, 25 March 2011 (CET)
::Ok, but here [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Vault_of_Missing_Men&action=edit] should be write something new about that, instead redirect link. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 20:01, 25 March 2011 (CET)
:::Alright, now I have begun on [[The Vault of Missing Men]]. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:30, 25 March 2011 (CET)

== The 28th Phantom ==
[[Jedda Walker]] is destined to become [[the 28th Phantom]] and at one point she thinks her father is dead and actually wears the dress. Should not this be enough to make her relevant for the nonexisting 28th Phantom article? Merely explaining that she has acted as the 28th Phantom? She is not like [[Julie]], who never was considered to be the next Phantom, but merely took the chance when it came, and only made a few appearances as the Phantom. No one expected her to be the Phantom permanently, except for a short period when her brother was presumed dead without heir. Jedda on the other hand, has been expected to eventually become the Phantom from the start (Even though I don't like it as the Phantom, in my opinion, ought to be a man so that the natives could continue to believe that it is the same person). [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:13, 25 March 2011 (CET)
:Interesting question, I have seen too little of DotE to help make a decision though. But if she took on the role of Phantom as you have mentioned in her article, that is a very strong argument to add her to the list of Phantoms. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:42, 26 March 2011 (CET)
::My own knowledge of this is hearsay on the Internet's different forums and a youtube tribute to Jedda in which she is seen finding her fathers belt floating in a river and then puts on the Phantom suit and fights with some criminals. The youtube-clip also show things from other episodes, it could be viewed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX1rqe5GrlY here]. I am myself unsure of how to do with this; we could add her like Julie to the template or we could created a new article with [[the 28th Phantom]] and then explain that in DotE, Jedda temporarily became that person and is destined do become him when her father dies. There are some futuristic Phantoms that have been portrayed by different creators and are thus different characters, but nevertheless still have the same article. I don't know if we should have one article about the 28th Phantom and one about Jedda; it's a complicated matter. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 13:40, 7 April 2011 (CEST)

== Kukailomoko ==
What to do with titles of story "Kukailomoko"? Frew titles are different than titles in list http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Team_Fantomen_stories and second and third parts are published under one title in Frew. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:51, 26 March 2011 (CET)
:It seems as if someone has merely translated the Swedish titles to English, when giving them English names, however, considering that part 2 and 3 was published as one, a discussion about what to do in such cases might be in order. (Had we had three English titles, one for each story, I would had have no problem.) [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:31, 26 March 2011 (CET)
::Yes, the Team Fantomen story list that I made (originally for [http://www.deepwoods.org Deepwoods]) tries to translate the Swedish titles as directly as possible. Frew titles often deviate very much from the original titles. This is a complicated case, but what is clear is that the three parts should each be given their own title (we always follow the ''original'' story separations when we create the article, and not later publishers' combining/separation of stories). In this case, we have a Frew title for part 1 and part 2. We could use the direct translation of the Swedish title for the third part. BTW, I don't have the Frew issue in question, so I don't know if part 2 & 3 were actually edited together (i.e. removed title page). Is that the case? If not, was the same title repeated on the title page of part 3? [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:40, 26 March 2011 (CET)
:::Yes, we must check that. I will try ask someone who could knows that. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 23:01, 26 March 2011 (CET)
::::I've changed informations, there were two titles in Frew 1056. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:28, 28 March 2011 (CEST)

== The Rope People (story) ==
In article about The 19th Phantom [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_19th_Phantom] I've found link for The Rope People (story). Do we need move contest from article [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Rope_People] to that link and put new conest? Same thing here [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_tribes_of_Bangalla] for The Golden People, The Children of the Forest, and The Stone Carving People. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:07, 29 March 2011 (CEST)

== The False Commendant ==
Is it correct translated title "The False Commendant" with "e" instead "a" (The False Commandant)? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:13, 29 March 2011 (CEST)

== Spesialalbum ==
About Fantomet Spesialalbum, some links are wiht Fantomet in name, but other without. What should be written in links at all in this case? In some other indexes this series is called Fantomet Spesialalbum. Fantomet Spesialalbum is name printed on covers. One-shots issues are named without Fantomet in name. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:10, 31 March 2011 (CEST)

== Julen 1997 ==
In list [[The Phantom publications in Norway]] album from 1997 is named as Julen 1997. But maybe this one could be named as Fantomet Christmas Album 1997? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:12, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
:I agree, as it is with the swedish counterpart. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 16:44, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
::OK, but will that then stay in one-shots list? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:50, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
:::It does not seem to have been any more Christmas albums after that, and the Year Album ended in 1988, so it could be described as a One-shot, unless we want to describe it as being the last of the Year Albums. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:31, 1 April 2011 (CEST)
::::Can you change those links? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:27, 10 April 2011 (CEST)
:::::Change what links into what links? Has anything been decided? [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:06, 12 April 2011 (CEST)
::::::I am not sure. I've posted a few questions, but almost nothing was decided. Maybe we could add new link for Fantomet Christmas Albums in [[The Phantom publications in Norway]]. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:40, 12 April 2011 (CEST)

== Newspapers ==
Do we need new category for newspapers? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:04, 31 March 2011 (CEST)
:I'd say yes; there is a difference. It could be a subcategory to [[:Category:Publications]]. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 20:34, 1 April 2011 (CEST)
::Can you crate that subcategory? And is it enough only one category, or separate for each country? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 18:13, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
:::I have created [[:Category:Newspapers]] with the first subcategory [[:Category:American newspapers]] [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 21:26, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
::::OK, but why articles are in [[:Category:Newspapers]], [[:Category:Publications]], and subcategory [[:Category:American newspapers]]? These articles could be only in [[:Category:American newspapers]]. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 21:58, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
:::::Yes, sorry, if that is how we usually do (subcategories only) then it should be that way for newspapers too. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 23:33, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
::::::OK, all newspapers are categorized now. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 14:48, 5 April 2011 (CEST)
:The “In newpapers” sections begin to be an important part of some “Phantom publications by country“ pages, as for instance in the USA page. But it is not easy to find information about the publishing dates. At the time being, there are several different presentations in the “Period’ column, such as : 1979-? / 19??-19?? / ?-? / ?-sixties-? / ? - 70's - ? / ?-50's to70's-? / and so on. To indicate years or decade(s) in the middle seems at least a good thing… but which standard presentation can we have when only few or any information is known about the released dates ? I really don’t know what are the best ways to mention periods, apart as far as the decade years is concerned : “50’s” looking better than “fifties” in a small column. Another thing, can we choose to write the name of the specific state of the newspaper in the “Comment” column ? At first sight, the newspaper would appear be more geographically localized…[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 17:18, 20 February 2012 (CET)
::I think that would be good solution, for example, 19??-? or something like that. That is temporary informations, it's not important how it will looks. About comment field, I think that's not needed more informations about American states, I think that we also should remove some informations from Canadian list. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:30, 20 February 2012 (CET)
:::And what about a general "Newspapers" page that could retaken all the individual "In newspapers" country sections (it would be a kind of worldwide view for that specific matter...).The original sections would be of course kept in their own "Country Publiactions" pages as usual.[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 11:48, 21 February 2012 (CET)
::::That would be complicated. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 12:42, 21 February 2012 (CET)
::::::I just thought it will be also a rather too long page...[[User:Alain03|Alain03]] 13:25, 21 February 2012 (CET)
:::::::Yes, I agree, but it would be good if other members can give more suggestions. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:53, 21 February 2012 (CET)
::::::::I think that this should be discussed here.[[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 12:03, 1 September 2013 (CEST)

== Frew 1407 ==
Only in [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Phantom_1407_%28Frew%29] and [http://www.schapter.org/wiki/Fantomets_Kr%C3%B8nike_4/2008] edited version of the story "Gullique - The Island of Doom" is linked as "Gullique and the Double Rainbow". Is it needed link? I don't think so. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:30, 1 April 2011 (CEST)
:There should only be one article for this story, edited and original version in one and the same.[[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 17:03, 5 April 2011 (CEST)
::OK, I'll add article for this story. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:40, 5 April 2011 (CEST)

== Phantom, Environmental Avenger ==
In Norway is published one story on 6 pages, drawn by Knut Westad. Info from [http://latestphantomnews.blogspot.com] This story could be added in Additional works list in Team Fantomen stories (I am not sure completely), but it doesn't have official title. Which title we will use? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:59, 13 April 2011 (CEST)

== Fantasma RGE ==
About Fantasma(RGE)issues, I think that we don't need this category. Instead that, we could create table. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:09, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
:Or both? Table on the main page and a link to Fantasma(RGE)issues? Many of the other brazilian issues have issue overviews presenting the covers. I moved this one because it had so many issues. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 13:19, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
::Yes, it had too many issues, it should do something about that, but I think that we only need table. Fantasma was bimonthly publications to issue #46. We don't have similiar categories for other publications, so I think that category Fantasma(RGE)issues should be removed. Than we could show covers for each years, like some other issue. What do you think? [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:34, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
:::Ah, like the scandinavian ones. I'll make an example later on. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 17:15, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
::::Yes, Andreas has made a few examples for Frew also. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:18, 14 April 2011 (CEST)
:::::Really great job, I think it's the best solution to shown these issues. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:20, 15 April 2011 (CEST)

== Presidential Palace ==
What should be linked in this case - Morristown Presidential Palace or only Presidential Palace? There are links for both versions. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:09, 18 April 2011 (CEST)

== Greek issues ==
I've got some help from Greek collector and added some new articles, but do we really need put source template in each issue article or only in main article? It's sometimes boring type captcha code. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 17:14, 19 April 2011 (CEST)

== Orjakaupunki ==
I think that Finnish album "Orjakaupunki" should be categorized as one-shot issue. In Swedish and Norway there was more issues in series "Samlade Serierariteter" and "Spesialalbum", but after in Finland there wasn't anything more in series, then "Orjakaupunki" is one-shot. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 20:27, 21 April 2011 (CEST)

== Aventures et Mystère ==
Which name we should use for this series?

*Aventures et Mystère (avant and après guerre)

*Aventures et Mystère (before and after war)

*Aventures et Mystère (First and Second series)

*Aventures et Mystère (1st and 2nd series)

*Aventures et Mystère (1938-40 and 1947-1949)

or...? Aventures et Mystère (avant and après guerre) is name usually used in French index, but I will use (1938-40 and 1947-1949). [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 15:46, 29 April 2011 (CEST)
== Flag suggestion ==
I added flags to [[Fantomen 1/1985 poster]] to illustrate the diversity of countries that (some) covers have been published in. The flags are linked to the respective country's article. Do you think it looks good and provides useful information? We have done a huge amount of cover articles already, so adding flags to all old articles doesn't have to be a big priority. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] 16:04, 20 May 2011 (CEST)
:It looks good, but it will be big job add flags to all cover articles. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 16:32, 20 May 2011 (CEST)
::I agree that this looks good, but I don't think we should make it a big priority to update all cover articles (and similar) with flags. [[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 23:01, 13 June 2011 (CEST)

== Update to 1.17.0 reverted ==
As we noticed, a bit late unfortunately, that the update to 1.17.0 done october 8 2011 was not a sucess. I have with the help of our ISP reverted to the last backup they made before the update attempt. 
This regretably means that all work on the wiki between october 8 to october 10 is lost. 
Next attempt to upgrade the wiki will be done in a totally different fashion. I will notify ahead of time and I will make a backup personally of both files and database. As i have learned, our wiki is now to big to be updated through the easy webinterface I have used before, so I will not use that anymore. I will instead use SSH. 
I did make backups of everything last times I updated but that is very tedious and slow work and those times it was unnecessary, so I honestly thought it would be this time too. I am deeply sorry for my mistake and hope you can forgive. 
[[Administrator]] 18:59, 12 October 2011 (CEST)
:There is some problem with http://www.schapter.org/wiki/File:Ofantasma39saber.jpg [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 13:07, 21 October 2011 (CEST)
:: This file is not included in the filebackup made prior to the failed upgrade. The file became corrupted or missing somehow before the upgrade. If you have a backup yourself I hope you can reupload it. [[Administrator]] 20:10, 23 October 2011 (CEST)
:::Please try delete http://www.schapter.org/wiki/File:Ofantasma39saber.jpg. Can't upload new version. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 11:56, 24 October 2011 (CEST)
::::Done. [[User:MiGi|MiGi]] 16:22, 24 October 2011 (CEST)

== "Anthology Appearance" or "As Backup Title" ? ==

Which of the above description applies to the following situations:

1) N issues of a magazine is published with each number dedicated to one and only one single character (The Phantom appears only in one issue). Title of the magazine is the name of the character. One-Shot, Anthology or Backup-Title?

2) Same as above but with The Phantom appearing in two or more issues but as the only character of that particular issue). Title of the magazine is the name of the character. Anthology or Backup-Title?

3) Same as 1) and 2) above but the title of the magazine is a more generic title common to all issues. Anthology or Backup-Title?

4) N issues of a magazine is published with each number including two or more different characters. Anthology or Backup-Title?

5) 1 issue of a magazine is published with two or more different characters. Anthology or Backup-Title?

This is a little confusing for me.

I see some discrepancies in the "Phantom Publications in Brazil" article with an equal situation classified differently. Also I would like to add two publications that are missing but I'm not sure how to classify it.

:Maybe we could add category In anthology style comics or something like that. I am not sure where should be classified Almanaque do Gibi Nostalgia series. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] 22:51, 29 December 2011 (CET)

::I know one/several case(s) where some mixture of 2 and 3 exists: [[Serie-pocket]] (same concept published in all Scandinavia). E.g. [[Serie-pocket (Sweden)]] seems to be listed as an ordinary magazine in the country template. Perhaps a more thorough thought of some of the classifications is validated. --[[User:Karl MAN|Karl MAN]] 21:45, 2 January 2012 (CET)
== delete page ==
Hello, I am new to Wikia, the article erroneously redirected to the Girl Girl Tiger Tiger, is delete it? [[User:Hyju|Hyju]] 01:03, 24 November 2012 (CET)

== Update to 1.19.7 ==

I have updated the wiki today from 1.16.1 so that was quite a jump in versions, It is fully functional and works as should even though the sidebar and firstpage look a little strange. I will fix that as soon as possible. Any advice why they do look this way are appreciated. [[User:Administrator|— ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 16:51, 19 July 2013 (CEST)
:Cover gallery looks terrible http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_Phantom_%28Frew%29_2013 There were similar problems before with updates. And what is category Pages with broken file links, it was only here before cover scan was uploaded http://www.schapter.org/wiki/K%C4%B1z%C4%B1lmaske_S%C3%BCper_Alb%C3%BCm_57 [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] ([[User talk:Delboj4|talk]]) 10:25, 20 July 2013 (CEST)

== Wiki updated to 1.21.1 ==
Despite some new changes to the skin with this update I didn't anticipated a very succesfull update. I have redone the skin following the guidelines for this update and added some new ones. The skin is now the way I like it, I hope you do too.
I have deleted 769 spamusers and merged them into one spam-account. I have also merged all the duplicate accounts we where forced to create a while back to each users main account. This took the user count from somewhere above 850 to 76. --[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 16:11, 25 July 2013 (CEST)
:I would like if I could get main account Delboj instead Delboj4. But there are more duplicate accounts, like The Clay Camel and Clay Camel, Kit*walker and Kitwalker, Karl MAN, Karl MAN 3 and Karl MAN 5, Hojo and HojO, possible also Germ and Jerm, IpComics and Ivan. And I don't understand about this http://www.schapter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Pages_with_broken_file_links If I added article first and then later upload cover scan, can't see any reason for this category. [[User:Delboj4|Delboj4]] ([[User talk:Delboj4|talk]]) 11:20, 26 July 2013 (CEST)
:: I have renamed your account into Delboj per your request. I wasn't able to merge all of Karl Mans accounts, mostly because of the contribution list he made on this page, I tried to delete the list and then merge them but that still didnt work, so I decided to not do more with his accounts so not to break anything, it still much better as it was, he had a total of nine accounts. Hojo and Hoj0 i missed, I will merge the both into Hyjy which is the same person as far as I can tell. The others I am not sure about, better to leave them alone.
::About the category, I don't fully understand why it behaves this way. Maybe Andreas and Migi can take a look at it.
:::Thanks. It would be good if it's possible solve problem with that category. In fact, I think we don't need that category at all if it wouldn't be category for all articles with link, but without uploaded cover image. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 13:59, 26 July 2013 (CEST)
:::: I figured out how to merge Karl Man 3 and Karl Man 5 with Karl Man, I had to delete duplicate entries in the accounts watchlists, then I could merge them, user count is now 68. --[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 14:29, 26 July 2013 (CEST)
::::: Does it possible automatically change (or move) in database all links from one section, like all Turkish issues with word "serie" in name to correct "series"? Is there any option like that in wiki? [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 14:20, 27 July 2013 (CEST)
::::: Not that I am aware of, I have searched for a extension that can do that on mediwiki.org but without luck. --[[User:Administrator|— [[User:Administrator]] ]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 09:24, 31 July 2013 (CEST)

== Guy Fawkes / "Minute of the Pale Death" ==
Looking for comics with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes Guy Fawkes] in, I came across [http://www.comicvine.com/fantomen-kronika-6-tales-from-the-3rd-phantom-s-ch/4000-489791/ this comic] ([[Fantomen Krönika 2/1994|''Fantomen Krönika'' 2/1994]]). [http://www.comics.org/issue/348620/#1031167 This site] also lists [[Fantomets Krønike 3/1989|''Fantomets Krønike'' 3/1989]]. Both issues contain "[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" ([[Special:WhatLinksHere/Minute_of_the_Pale_Death|links]]) by [[Michael Tierres]] and [[Jaime Vallvé]] ([http://www.ipcomics.net/Fantomet/stories.php?comments=F0360 this is the only page I can find scanned]). My questions then are:
#Has "[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" ever been published in English (Frew or otherwise)? If not, where does the English title come from (i.e. is it the official English title)?
#Is there anything I can do to help with preparation to get the "[[Minute of the Pale Death]]" article created, as a ''Phantom'' novice—especially to Team Fantomen—or for me to help out with in the meantime?
#Are there likely to be any other ''Phantom'' stories with Fawkes in, by chance?
Apologies if this isn't the right place to ask, and thanks for this great wiki whether you can help or not! [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 21:19, 1 November 2015 (CET)
:I have started a basic article about the story, where I also try to explain the title. If anyone can find the English translation of Birger Sjöberg's "Frida's Book" we may actually find how "Bleka dödens minut" is officially translated to English. Right now this is just my personal interpretation. Fawkes appears in exactly one panel of the story (though he is the unseen plotter who sets events in motion that affects the Phantom). I don't think any more Fawkes stories are planned at the moment. [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] ([[User talk:Andreas|talk]]) 11:02, 2 November 2015 (CET)
::Thanks for looking into this! If it's been translated, it'll probably be in [http://www.birgersjoberg.se/pdffiler/fridas_new_clothes.pdf here] (trying to find out whether or not it is). As a song, it was translated by Martin Best as "[http://www.discogs.com/Martin-Best-When-First-I-Ever-Saw-You/release/4738101 Death's Hour]" (this translation has been repeated by [http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=1090925# Samuelson & Bergström]). [http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Completely_Different_Title Is this site] right in saying that "Pale Deaths's Minute" is an idiom meaning "just in time" (perhaps in the context of the poem)? P.S. let me know if I get anything wrong as I go! [[User:Origen|Origen]] ([[User talk:Origen|talk]]) 14:20, 2 November 2015 (CET)

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Origen: new section: Guy Fawkes / "Minute of the Pale Death"