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::::::::It looks better than earlier, but I still think that isn't necessary. I think that's enough '''''Menomonee Falls Gazette ''#219'''. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 20:28, 12 January 2017 (CET)
::::::::It looks better than earlier, but I still think that isn't necessary. I think that's enough '''''Menomonee Falls Gazette ''#219'''. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 20:28, 12 January 2017 (CET)
:::::::::Yeah, it's better and it'll get you the link to the magazines main page. But, as Andreas said in [[Talk:Fantomen_15/1996|another discussion]], you now have 10.000+ articles to change. Just changing an article here and there in a series doesn't look good. Maybe it's something we should use when adding a new magazine/series, like the upcoming Norwegian one?<br>Just thought of another thing, about your phrasing. If it's a running magazine you should write '... is a regular...', but when it's canceled we'll have to change it to '... was a regular...'. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] ([[User talk:MiGi|talk]]) 21:57, 12 January 2017 (CET)
:::::::::Yeah, it's better and it'll get you the link to the magazines main page. But, as Andreas said in [[Talk:Fantomen_15/1996|another discussion]], you now have 10.000+ articles to change. Just changing an article here and there in a series doesn't look good. Maybe it's something we should use when adding a new magazine/series, like the upcoming Norwegian one?<br>Just thought of another thing, about your phrasing. If it's a running magazine you should write '... is a regular...', but when it's canceled we'll have to change it to '... was a regular...'. --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] ([[User talk:MiGi|talk]]) 21:57, 12 January 2017 (CET)
:Yes, those 10.000+ articles are surely a bot job, but let us all add proper headers at the same time we write new articles or edit old ones. /[[User:Vogler|Vogler]] ([[User talk:Vogler|talk]]) 06:07, 13 January 2017 (CET)
:Yes, those 10.000+ articles are surely a bot job, but let us all add proper headers at the same time we write new articles or edit old ones. [[User:Vogler|Vogler]] ([[User talk:Vogler|talk]]) 06:07, 13 January 2017 (CET)
::However, with headers we won't get anything new and helpful, it would be better to spend that time on creating of new articles. And not incomplete articles of "Menomonee Falls Gazette", I will finish it in the next period. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 10:13, 13 January 2017 (CET)
:::I think that should be "#" in header. In fact, I think that we need headers only for some issues, but we already discussed about that. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 09:20, 31 December 2017 (CET)
::::About French headers, I've noticed that you change it and now linked years. Do we really need article for each year in that French series? [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 08:31, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
:::::Why not? We have it for a couple of other series.--[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] ([[User talk:MiGi|talk]]) 09:15, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
::::::Yes, I know, but it will be big job to make it for all similar other series. [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 09:31, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
:::::::I was thinking something like this [[Le Fantôme (Remparts) 1963]]--[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] ([[User talk:MiGi|talk]]) 10:11, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
:Even though the french series now has articles for years, it doesn't mean all other similar series has to have it. [[User:Vogler|Vogler]] ([[User talk:Vogler|talk]]) 10:25, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
::If a series have complete articles (as far as the Phantom stories is concerned) for all issues and with publishing year, I think it should have. When someone has the time to do them.  :-) --[[User:MiGi|MiGi]] ([[User talk:MiGi|talk]]) 10:33, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
 
== Halland / Hallandsposten ==
 
About Halland , does it same newspaper as Hallandsposten? [[User:Delboj|Delboj]] ([[User talk:Delboj|talk]]) 17:23, 4 December 2019 (CET)
 
:Vogler may have made a mistake but there was indeed a daily newspaper called Halland issued until 1954. It is not the same newspaper as Hallandsposten. [[User:Thuresson|Thuresson]] ([[User talk:Thuresson|talk]]) 21:28, 4 December 2019 (CET)
 
::It’s no mistake, it is the newspaper Halland (1876-1954). I have checked microfilm reels in an archive to verify the last two stories published in Halland. It would be interesting to find out more. And there must be a great dark figure of Swedish newspapers which published the strip in those days, I suspect much more research could be carried out in this area. Please tell me if you know of other newspapers that need to be checked. --[[User:Vogler|Vogler]] ([[User talk:Vogler|talk]]) 22:01, 4 December 2019 (CET)
::: So in that case there needs to be created an article for ''[[Halland]]'' since it is not the same as ''[[Hallandsposten]]'', is that correct? [[User:Andreas|Andreas]] ([[User talk:Andreas|talk]]) 14:09, 5 December 2019 (CET)
::::Yes it’s correct. And that article could say that the last story to be published was The Movie Stars, the strip was published until November 3, 1951 as far as I know. I don’t know yet which year they started publishing their first strip. --[[User:Vogler|Vogler]] ([[User talk:Vogler|talk]]) 01:47, 7 December 2019 (CET)

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German publication years

About German Phantom series, the first issue was published in July 1974, at least according to deepwoods.org. However, if it was serialized fortnightly, issue #23 must be from 1975. Please don't add wrong informations. It's better option to write 197? instead exact and wrong year. Delboj (talk) 15:26, 14 December 2016 (CET)

I agree, but then the year for the German publication date given in the article for "The Frame-Up" must be wrong? Vogler (talk) 18:16, 14 December 2016 (CET)
Of course, but than that info should be corrected. Delboj (talk) 19:36, 14 December 2016 (CET)

Headers

I would like to open discussion about headers. I can't see any sense in headers for regular series. There isn't anything more informative there. All is already written somewhere in articles. That is completely waste of time and duplicating of informations. Headers are helpful for special issues. Delboj (talk) 12:48, 11 January 2017 (CET)

I think all articles should have a header. For regular issues, it only needs to be one sentence, but a link to the magazine article should be in that sentence. Vogler (talk) 14:09, 11 January 2017 (CET)
But why, what's a point of that? I don't understand why we should add duplicate informations. OK, if somewhere should be added that is the fourth issues in series that included Phantoms story, that is helpful. But in other cases can't be. Delboj (talk) 14:13, 11 January 2017 (CET)
Ok, instead of writing #211 was the 211th issue maybe just write "#211 was a regular issue of *** magazine"? Vogler (talk) 14:23, 11 January 2017 (CET)
No, I think that's enough (series or issue title, name, or whatever) #XXX, without any additonal text, except for the first and the last issue, or the last which include Phantom story, and also additonal informations should be added if there are some errors... Maybe header could have a sense in some series where was published the Phantom, but about that we can discuss here. Delboj (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2017 (CET)
Yes, the Header should always contain country of origin and a link to the magazine article. Complete sentences looks better. Vogler (talk) 14:56, 11 January 2017 (CET)
That could be OK, but not, for example, "series name" #200 is 200th issue... I think there are a lot of job on Phantom wiki and we shouldn't waste of time for that. Delboj (talk) 16:23, 11 January 2017 (CET)
Please check now if the Header is ok for Menomonee Falls Gazette #219, and if that could be the standard we should go for. Vogler (talk) 17:15, 12 January 2017 (CET)
It looks better than earlier, but I still think that isn't necessary. I think that's enough Menomonee Falls Gazette #219. Delboj (talk) 20:28, 12 January 2017 (CET)
Yeah, it's better and it'll get you the link to the magazines main page. But, as Andreas said in another discussion, you now have 10.000+ articles to change. Just changing an article here and there in a series doesn't look good. Maybe it's something we should use when adding a new magazine/series, like the upcoming Norwegian one?
Just thought of another thing, about your phrasing. If it's a running magazine you should write '... is a regular...', but when it's canceled we'll have to change it to '... was a regular...'. --MiGi (talk) 21:57, 12 January 2017 (CET)
Yes, those 10.000+ articles are surely a bot job, but let us all add proper headers at the same time we write new articles or edit old ones. Vogler (talk) 06:07, 13 January 2017 (CET)
However, with headers we won't get anything new and helpful, it would be better to spend that time on creating of new articles. And not incomplete articles of "Menomonee Falls Gazette", I will finish it in the next period. Delboj (talk) 10:13, 13 January 2017 (CET)
I think that should be "#" in header. In fact, I think that we need headers only for some issues, but we already discussed about that. Delboj (talk) 09:20, 31 December 2017 (CET)
About French headers, I've noticed that you change it and now linked years. Do we really need article for each year in that French series? Delboj (talk) 08:31, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
Why not? We have it for a couple of other series.--MiGi (talk) 09:15, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
Yes, I know, but it will be big job to make it for all similar other series. Delboj (talk) 09:31, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
I was thinking something like this Le Fantôme (Remparts) 1963--MiGi (talk) 10:11, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
Even though the french series now has articles for years, it doesn't mean all other similar series has to have it. Vogler (talk) 10:25, 31 March 2018 (CEST)
If a series have complete articles (as far as the Phantom stories is concerned) for all issues and with publishing year, I think it should have. When someone has the time to do them.  :-) --MiGi (talk) 10:33, 31 March 2018 (CEST)

Halland / Hallandsposten

About Halland , does it same newspaper as Hallandsposten? Delboj (talk) 17:23, 4 December 2019 (CET)

Vogler may have made a mistake but there was indeed a daily newspaper called Halland issued until 1954. It is not the same newspaper as Hallandsposten. Thuresson (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2019 (CET)
It’s no mistake, it is the newspaper Halland (1876-1954). I have checked microfilm reels in an archive to verify the last two stories published in Halland. It would be interesting to find out more. And there must be a great dark figure of Swedish newspapers which published the strip in those days, I suspect much more research could be carried out in this area. Please tell me if you know of other newspapers that need to be checked. --Vogler (talk) 22:01, 4 December 2019 (CET)
So in that case there needs to be created an article for Halland since it is not the same as Hallandsposten, is that correct? Andreas (talk) 14:09, 5 December 2019 (CET)
Yes it’s correct. And that article could say that the last story to be published was The Movie Stars, the strip was published until November 3, 1951 as far as I know. I don’t know yet which year they started publishing their first strip. --Vogler (talk) 01:47, 7 December 2019 (CET)